Sitting up. Feeling low

[changeinmypocket]

I posted earlier about my baby's painful wind at night which wakes him. It's so bad tonight and I've been in tears and had about a dozen rows with DP. We're both so tired that we literally cannot have a conversation during the night anymore without me getting extremely irritated by him (understatement).
We've come to the conclusion one of us will have to take a shift holding DS while the other sleeps. (He still wakes crying frequently even when being held but he seems to calm down a bit easier if in arms when he wakes)
DP has decided enough is enough and we're taking him (again) to the doctors however I've had the realisation that the first available appointment will likely be in at least 2 days time, and anything the doc suggests to help will also take time if it's going to work, so best case scenario we're looking at several more nights before improvement.
I feel horrendous. I haven't had as much as 4 hours uninterrupted sleep in weeks and I'm really upset 😓
He's 6 months old and sleep is supposed to be getting better, instead it's becoming a distant memory.
AIBU to be vent on MN at 1am looking for comfort from strangers to make me feel marginally better

There's another way to hold them when they have tummy pain - lay them face down with top of legs at your elbow, your arm supporting their front and your hand cradling their chin.

You can lean them forward and rub their lower back, it puts a tiny amount of pressure on a wind filled belly and they still feel very secure.

It worked on DD2 when she was little, anyway. Neither of mine would bring wind up over the shoulder or with patting, but circular rubbing on the lower back (clockwise) seemed to result in the biggest burps.

Could it be worth a try?

I used to strap my daughter into her car seat and sit it ontop of the washing machine (stayed there with her obviously ) when It was on a spin cycle, the vibrations did amazing things

@SeriouslyStrongCheese formula feeding at the moment so unfortunately rules out being able to cut out foods! Weaning delay is something else to think about though thank you ☺️

Have you tried gripe water? It's amazing stuff.

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/woodwards-gripe-water-150ml?langId=44&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8Wtvv7D4QIVyZ3tCh0uYANKEAQYASABEgLLfvDBwE&storeId=10151&krypto=xMKfvfsiXL39iMOM%2F5bzk8Iw%2FHUy6XHNs9JOpE6G5fBZ1irfLLsen6DjHcCQLvKlAnofbKN2Ub3EnLoUq7LNie8%2FlDhSVGpuA24%2BIwOBD23ydQFkm7itYfjSQpCFonxpEXr5ybXocLTROFIRqZ98sdcPIIrBgb1Ac5Q2aLCgPlmm6qL5hBCwcrc71fnjUfZFNn8yPXw%2FZPx2K8bWOqOUNpDPzP45mZ2p1BPpA1uyXVSS%2BSX94aFQSP3NjgkjUxRnEE3z1LeAvdA9wjScpmf%2BDfIU3vRBrNp7S7avKq6o2sk%3D&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Fwoodwards-gripe-water-150ml

@Nolagerformethanks started him on SMA when i stopped bf at 2 weeks and had the same terrible poos and wind! Changed to Hipp Organic shortly after and it sorted out! Funny that a lot of people have the same experience with it! Bad news!

@MitziK definitely worth a try thank you!

@changeinmypocket hello
My daughter is 2 and a half
She suffers from sever gastric reflux
She was on gaviscorn till she was about 9 months 1 year
Then renetadine now lanoprezole
Only letting you know because there's things out there to help
Didn't work for me she is being referred To a gastroenterologist
I wake up up to 7 times ever night since she's been born. I'm not working tho, husband had work so has to sleep. Just letting you know there are things out there to help you and your child if it's really bad.

@ifoundthebread that's absolutely genius! really wish he didn't hate the car seat. Where were you with that little gem when my eldest was a baby haha

I can hand my granddaughter back! Definitely poor you, it’s exhausting.

Hope you manage some sleep tonight x

@Surfingtheweb not tried gripe water since he was much younger! Worth another go definitely!

@Goldendust here I am complaining about a few weeks of crap sleep and you're there dealing with it for years like an absolute hero! That's awful for you and your daughter to have struggled with this for so long!
Thanks very much for your reassurance. I really hope the referral works out for you guys!

Thanks @Claw01 I'm sure you'll see me whinging about it if not!

Would put money on CMP intolerance/allergy. Sounds exactly like my nephew. GP again. Sympathies, it's fucking awful.

Tell us more OP. Hoe much do they feed? Formula or BF? Any other symptoms?

Any of these?

Irritability, grizzling, inconsolable crying, screaming.

Bloating, cramps, excessive gas.
Frequent watery, frothy and/or explosive bowel motions.

Sometimes green in colour with an offensive odour, seed like deposits and/or of a stringy texture.

Wakefulness from discomfort with episodes of longer periods of sleep, but this is often from exhaustion through crying and lack of sleep rather than because they feel comfortable.

Frequent searching for something to suck - exhibiting the ‘root reflex’.

Weight gains that are consistently at the upper regions or beyond recommended levels, or, as described by Morris Wessel, your baby will ‘look to otherwise be thriving’.

Arching backwards or sideways, writhing, wriggling.

Pedalling legs.

Gulping their food, seeming very hungry while being restless – sometimes refusing to feed, pulling off the nipple, or when bottle-fed, having flailing arms and legs with much turning of the head.

DS is a little younger but also gets terrible trapped wind if not helped. Definitely the sling, and we've found baby fennel tea is amazing. My mum mentioned she gave it to me as apparently I had similar issues as a child. I mentioned it to a German friend and she said nearly all babies have it in Germany rather than various meds , infacol etc. It's hard to get here but I found it on eBay and Amazon. The granules have sugar so I get the teabags which are just fennel seed, you steep them in 200ml boiling water for five minutes then cool. I give DS 100mls a day luke warm, but he is younger than your DS, my gosh the flatulence he produces after is remarkable, but he doesn't get trapped wind any more. If I forget to give it to him or we've been delayed out and I've thought oh he will be fine not having it for one day, I notice he is more unsettled overnight. We use the Hipp organic baby fennel tea bags.

@MaderiaCycle he's generally okay during the day. He used be awful during daytime but after switching him to reflux milk around 3 months ago it improved. He does get a bloated tummy as well as the possible cramps and excessive gas at night.
His bowel habits are all over the place - over Christmas he had 4 weeks of explosive, right out of the nappy, mucous filled poo every day
After new year he then suddenly had terrible constipation/compacted stool, to the point of getting stuck half way out when he tried to go, for which he was prescribed lactulose. Just around a month ago we had another string of 7 or 8 days where he explosively pood every day. And his bowel movements always smell like macaroni cheese. Puts a bit of a dampener on a favourite childhood meal...
Definitely no periods of longer sleep haha
He's a bit of a thumb sucker but other than that no rooting as such
He's a healthy weight, as well as being long and broad (looks more like an 8 month old), which is why we've been very quickly dismissed by the doctor anytime we've visited with proposed digestive issues
He's always arching his back when he's crying but sometimes just out of frustration id say
That's about it!
When I put it all together like that it really doesn't seem so bad at all - but he slept a little better last night so I think I'm feeling overly optimistic

@ZippyBungleandGeorge never heard of this before! Thank you for your message as will definitely look into this. Could be a solution!

@changeinmypocket hun it will get better there is no quick fix our kids will grow out of it eventually. I ensure when I put my daughter to sleep I have some chill out or wind down time where I have a nice cup of tea watch something.
I've stopped telling everyone about her issue but I've learnt how to Manage it the best. If I don't feel like going anywhere or there is a risk of her throwing up I don't go but I have a very understanding husband. He doesn't pressure me to do anything. But also isn't able to help which is a reason I guess he doesn't too.
I'm always here to talk. I do oil massage my daughters tummy as well, and lay her on her stomach and encourage her to fart too. I give her a cheer and she tries to do it more which is good. The wind is better out than in xxx

@Goldendust thanks so much for your reply! I do live for the little bit of piece and quiet after the kids are in bed somedays so recently, when DS has been fussy and not staying down long, it's really played with my sanity a bit. Sounds like you've been having a tough time! That's so cute that your daughter tries harder to relieve her wind because she likes the praise! Very good idea!