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to think you have to be really really careful

58 replies

Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 00:02

about what you say online these days? The lady being held in Dubai right now for calling her ex husband an idiot is censorship gone mad in my opinion. I feel like we've all been sucked into this place called Social Media on the pretence that it's giving us,the plebs, a voice when really we are being watched,censored and controlled much more than we realise,and are becoming weak and scared to speak out incase because we are terrified to be thought of being nn pc.

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Iltavilli · 09/04/2019 00:07

Or just avoid countries with brutal oppressive regimes, and you’ll be fine!

You’re conflating the very narrow specifics of the case in question (the very strict social media law of Dubai) with general social media and coming up with conspiracy theories.

Chocmallows · 09/04/2019 00:12

It's crazy, I think she just called her ex's new wife a horse as he married her shortly after making her and their daughter suffer.

Now she has a possible prison sentence and fine. Their 14 year old luckily was sent home, but with obvious psychological distress.

I said much worse to my exH. Never wanted to visit anyway! guess I would be flogged

AlunWynsKnee · 09/04/2019 00:13

You're right. Social media statements have caused all sorts of problems to people. A friend of mine who worked in a nursery freaked out about a slightly pissed video of us singing (nothing offensive) on FB because her contract specified what couldn't be on her SM. She hadn't been there 2 years so had no rights.

Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 00:33

Or just avoid countries with brutal oppressive regimes, and you’ll be fine!
The lady in question did the right thing by her daughter by taking her to her father's funeral.She should not be penalised for that!

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Iltavilli · 09/04/2019 00:36

I didn’t say she had OP.

But you’re flagging a very specific case relating to Dubai’s legal structure and coming out with something quite extreme

ilovesooty · 09/04/2019 00:39

If you lay yourself open to disciplinary action or criminal proceedings as a result of what you post on social media you're very foolish. It's nothing to do with being "PC".

Companies have social media policies and other countries have different laws.

polarpig · 09/04/2019 00:39

Is against the law in Dubai and she was vindictively reported by the woman she vindictively called a horse. Horses for courses.....

Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 00:42

Exactly Chocmallows but as we all know it's one law for the men and another for the women in Dubai.

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Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 00:50

Come back to me in 10 years time when the police state has caught up with you and effectively gagged you all through subtle fear and censorship.

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RubberTreePlant · 09/04/2019 00:51

It really is a "UAE" thing, rather than an SM or a "these days" thing OP.

RubberTreePlant · 09/04/2019 00:53

Come back to me in 10 years time when the police state has caught up with you and effectively gagged you all through subtle fear and censorship.

You think the UK is going to go down the road of becoming an oppressive big brother regime? With criminal penalties for calling your successor a horse?

Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 00:57

Is against the law in Dubai and she was vindictively reported by the woman she vindictively called a horse. Horses for courses.....

So you seriously think a person calling someone a name deserves the punishment of up yo two years in jail and a 50.000 fine do you?

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ReanimatedSGB · 09/04/2019 01:07

I've heard of people being disciplined for posting rude jokes or whatever on social media, and I don't think it's acceptable. Companies do not own their employees and should not behave as though they do - what you do in your free time should be up to you.

Wannabeyorkshirelass · 09/04/2019 01:08

The lady in question did the right thing by her daughter by taking her to her father's funeral.She should not be penalised for that!

She's not being penalised for that - she's being penalised for breaking the laws of the country she's chosen to go to.

And no I'm sorry but I don't agree that taking a 14 year old girl to a middle eastern country where females are oppressed and in danger was the right thing to do. To be bald about it, her dad was just as dead no matter where she said goodbye. This way she's scarred for life.

Zoflorabore · 09/04/2019 01:12

I wouldn't be allowed into Dubai due to taking codeine for fibromyalgia. Seriously.

I would rather not suffer than go there.

It's very much a "women are second class citizens country" anyway which puts me right off. And the fact that it's £6 for a can of Diet Coke.

There are worse things said than calling someone a horse ffs.

Aprillygirl · 09/04/2019 01:12

•It really is a "UAE" thing, rather than an SM or a "these days" thing OP.*
She posted it in this country though and we are slowly but surely being repressed in this country too.It's just a shame that we are so busy posting pictures of what we ate today and shit that we can't see it.

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RubberTreePlant · 09/04/2019 01:15

She posted it in this country though and we are slowly but surely being repressed in this country too.It's just a shame that we are so busy posting pictures of what we ate today and shit that we can't see it.

She's been locked up for a ridiculous reason under a stupid law because she chose to go to that country.

It doesn't happen here.

It's not going to happen here.

LollyLarkin · 09/04/2019 06:58

@Zoflorabore where are you getting this information? I lived there and was prescribed codeine for a back problem! It’s fine as long as you have a prescription.

And you may pay £6 for a Diet Coke in a top hotel but I can assure you it doesn’t cost that much. When I was there last week I paid just over 50p for a can, cheaper than the UK!

magicstar1 · 09/04/2019 07:07

Doesn’t happen here? And yet Mumsnet have been served with a court order to release details of a poster’s name, address etc. Because someone didn’t like what they posted?

Zoflorabore · 09/04/2019 08:24

Lolly

Wow! I didn't know that. It was a couple of years back when we were going to Turkey and I looked into medications not allowed as I take lots and I read that codeine is not allowed into Dubai Blush and I've been taking it for 14 years though currently on dihidrocodeine.
I've always wanted to go....

My auntie goes several times a year and told me that's what they pay for their dc drinks in the hotel.

Aragog · 09/04/2019 08:30

I wouldn't be allowed into Dubai due to taking codeine for fibromyalgia. Seriously.

You can. You just need to fill in a form online in advance and have your prescription forms with you, and all medication in official labelled boxes/tubs. You don't need a doctors note but my gp did offer.

I have this and various medication with me at present, inc for the stay in UAE. You just have to be prepared in advance.

Jackshouse · 09/04/2019 08:33

MN are have been asked by a court this week to hand over the personal details of a poster for a civil case and as far as we know they are not going to appeal and they are going to comply. Yes, I think you need to be careful.

GottaGoGottaGo · 09/04/2019 08:33

@Zoflorabore
I wouldn't be allowed into Dubai due to taking codeine for fibromyalgia. Seriously

As long as you have your doctors prescription or a letter you are fine. Drinks prices in the hotels are high, just as they are anywhere in the world. Buy from the supermarket or a normal cafe type place, on a par or cheaper than UK.

Zoflorabore · 09/04/2019 08:36

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Ds would love to go to the waterparks there and I've always had it in my head that I couldn't go... feel stupid Grin

Babdoc · 09/04/2019 08:38

I’m not defending their ghastly repressive laws for a minute, but the woman posted the insult of “horse” in Farsi, her first language. Apparently it means “whore” in Arabic, so was rather more offensive than it might appear at first sight.
We take free speech for granted in the U.K., but even here, the Transgender rights activists are taking feminists to court for daring to disagree with them and pointing out the biological fact that they are men, on social media. We are being forced to refer to convicted rapists as “women”, for example.

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