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To ask what to do when DDs relationship with a teacher has entirely broken down.

16 replies

Teacherproblem · 04/04/2019 05:41

DD has SEN and absolutely hates her.
I'm pretty sure the teacher hates DD too.
There are no behavioural issues elsewhere. I don't think she's an angel. She can be a stroppy madam and there's been a mention previously of low level chatting in class which is rightly dealt with but she has never had detention for behaviour or anything like that.

There is nothing positive from the teacher even when DD made significant progress.
DD has significant needs in this subject and there's never any praise.
At parents evening DD had gone up significantly in lessons and all she did was point out all the ones DD had done wrong

She shouts all the time. If DD is telling the truth she calls the class names and regularly leaves the class in a temper. I have had contact with the teacher twice before about something I felt was extremely out of order and she cried and said she didn't remember saying these things the day before. My DD was being bullied at one point IN her class and she berated DD for not putting the effort in in the second part of the class despite DD physically being distressed at that point.

She has followed DD into her safe/quiet space where she goes for sensory issues to berate her after a lesson, she shouts at DD for not maintaining eye contact (SN) not encourages just shouts.

No behavioural problems at all elsewhere in school behaviour wise . When asked DD sometimes talks in class (extremely annoying I understand ) and fights against her when she's trying to push her. I've no doubt that DD is now responding to her with an attitude tone which is not acceptable and DD said she's screamed at her about having respect for her so I definitely don't think she's an angel in all this but not to a point this relationship should have broken down so badly.

She struggles in this lesson work wise A LOT in general and the teachers behaviour is making her check out all together.

Help appreciated.

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Myfoolishboatisleaning · 04/04/2019 05:43

How old is dd? Also how do you know all the ins and outs? Is this coming directly from your dd?

Soontobe60 · 04/04/2019 05:46

I'm guessing that everything you have mentioned is what your DD has told you. It concerns me that you were able to see a teacher and the teacher cried during the conversation.
I would make an appointment to see the Senco and express your concerns.

Teacherproblem · 04/04/2019 06:02

Year 11.

DD has relayed all this immediately after each lesson to her Senco who she goes to when upset. Senco will then contact me to tell me she will have a word so DD IS clearly relaying this information to her as she says she is.
She then comes home and tells me.

It was the Senco who the teacher spoke to when she said she didn't remember. I can't remember who told me she had cried but I think it may have been the teacher directly to DD. She's left class crying several times tbh (not because of DD I should add!)

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Mummyoflittledragon · 04/04/2019 06:05

She cried? The teacher sounds manipulative and lacking emotional resilience to say the least. I would be contacting the senco and the head. You’ve spoken to the teacher and she’s denied her behaviour. Hopefully you will get somewhere however when I had an issue the school closed ranks. So do brace yourself. Be factual and keep emotion out of it. Include the info on trying to address it directly with the teacher.

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/04/2019 06:06

Cross post I see it was the senco, who tried to address it. Deffo the head now.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/04/2019 06:08

Hard as this might be, hold on a moment!

That teacher is probably on the edge, nearing the very end of her tether and trying to hold out until some date she has set in her own mind. I've been there, many others have also. We keep on keeping on believeing we are ding the best for our students, when, patently, we often are not!

Instead of trying to fix it via your DD could you contact the safeguarding oficer and express your concern about the well being of the teacher? Coming from a parent, especially one whose child is finding the teacher stress inducing, could go a very long way to helping the teacher and so, in turn, your DD.

You should find the nemed person on the schools website. Safeguarding is not just for the students, it is for the staff too! Please take 10 minutes to do this. You might make a HUGE difference in the long run!

HaventGotAllDay · 04/04/2019 06:10

What was the feedback from the Senco when she had a word?

If this has been going on for some time then the Senco's "having a word" each time seems not to have resolved anything.

HoY? HT?

SexNotJenga · 04/04/2019 06:16

Take it to the Head. The Senco isn't the other teacher's boss, basically.

AJPTaylor · 04/04/2019 06:22

Go to the Head.

Teacherproblem · 04/04/2019 09:35

CuriousaboutSamphire

Thank you. I know who the safeguarding person is. I didn't think of that.

She's clearly struggling and I do have sympathy. There have been a few incidents recently two which involved screaming at the class , crying and storming out leaving them and another telling them no one wanted to teach the bottom ability class plus a medical incident I won't go into.

She doesn't come from a teaching background. She's quite a bit older and this school is her first teaching job as far as I'm aware. It's not a huge school and has small class sizes.
DD is usually spot on for repeating word for word as part of her SN and the words she has told me are things like stupid, pathetic, idiot etc which upset me as DD went through a stage of saying she was thick and stupid :(

I've obviously had words with DD about not talking and keeping her head down in her class but the teachers whole demeanour last night made it very clear she didn't like DD.

Every other subject feedback we had was how positive DD was being and how hard she was trying and how well she was working.

All I got off this teacher was well the good news is you have gone up two grades BUT and then basically showed us page after page pointing out her errors telling her she shouldn't have got them wrong. No how she could get it right. No help on what to work on, just flipping pages telling her look wrong, wrong again.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/04/2019 12:34

Ah! Then HoY and the safeguarding officer then. She needs a lot of help, maybe steering out of the job.

I too was a late entrant to teaching, but I loved it for the first decade or so! Sadly I have seen a fair few enticed in by the promises The Goviots and others made, then they flounder and never quite recover!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 04/04/2019 13:27

This absolutely needs escalating. Maybe the teacher isn’t coping, or is counting down the days until a certain date and is trying to hang on until then, but her behaviour sounds completely unacceptable. The priority here should be the students; the teacher is old enough to look after herself.

My school days are long behind me —thank fuck for that—but I can remember a couple of teachers who came to teaching later in life. Sadly, they rarely lasted, even though it was a good school - I think the reality is just too different from what they’d expected. I remember one who quit on the first day and went back to consultancy.

ScabbyHorse · 04/04/2019 15:22

The teacher sounds like she is in knowledgeable about SEN provision. And a bit of a drama queen. I would raise it with her line manager ie the head teacher.

ScabbyHorse · 04/04/2019 15:23

Unknowledgable

ThatLibraryMiss · 04/04/2019 15:59

She cried? The teacher sounds manipulative and lacking emotional resilience to say the least.

Manipulative? She sounds like she's at the end of her tether, poor woman. You couldn't pay me enough to teach, even with a supportive line manager and SLT.

tor8181 · 04/04/2019 20:15

keep an eye on this as a bullying y5 teacher hated my then 10 y old(y5) and bullied him to the point that he had a nervous breakdown months later

took him 3 years to recover as he went agoraphobic and havent been back to school since

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