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Anyone else sick to death of Brexit?

51 replies

Pinkbutton85 · 30/03/2019 05:28

Leave or don't, I know I'm not alone in not caring anymore! We are a joke of a country. Our parliament is a laughing stock.

What's happening in other news?!

OP posts:
HappyDinosaur · 30/03/2019 07:22

Yep, embarrassing!

gotin2amess · 30/03/2019 07:28

I am not bored. For the first time in this entire fiasco, I am worried. I am really worried.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 30/03/2019 07:29

Also, the stupid two-party first past the post system makes it very difficult indeed for an individual voter to know how to effect radical change as opposed to just flipping their constituency's representation to the other party

Yup. I’m in a majority remain constituency which was until recently a Lab/Con marginal but our quite excellent remain Labour MP secured a significant majority last time.

But I don’t think I can vote for her again as it just encourages the “80% voted for a Leave party at the GE” bollocks and I actually don’t want a Corbyn Labour government anyway.

A LD vote has the same effect as a spoiled ballot or abstention, and runs the risk of a Tory MP which is as bad as Corbyn. Worse if a Brexit headbanger/disaster capitalist gets to be PM. And judging from poor Dominic Grieve’s experience last night that’s exactly what would happen.

Meretricious · 30/03/2019 07:39

We’ve got years of this to come. There’ll be negotiation after negotiation. It’s such a mess. It’s like saying, let’s build a house and just letting some incompetent amateurs have at it using a bit of googling....

DanielRicciardosSmile · 30/03/2019 07:49

Absolutely sick to death of it. It's like there's nothing else happening anywhere. To hell with hospitals stretched to the point of collapse. To hell with schools in crisis. To hell with disabled people having their benefits slashed to practically zero. No time for anything in the news but bloody Brexit.

Brilliantidiot · 30/03/2019 08:09

Absolutely sick to death of it. It's like there's nothing else happening anywhere. To hell with hospitals stretched to the point of collapse. To hell with schools in crisis. To hell with disabled people having their benefits slashed to practically zero. No time for anything in the news but bloody Brexit.

Agreed, great way to divert everyone's attention away from important stuff like this.
And yeah, fed up here too. Make a decision someone and stick to it, or do something.

RedRiverShore · 30/03/2019 08:13

Fed up of the constant voting which is not getting anywhere, the constant news coverage, totally lost interest in it all

Meshpregnancy · 30/03/2019 08:17

Fed up of it and fed up of everything else being on hold in our lives because of it. Can’t sell our house because market is dead due go brexit, can’t look for a new job because nobody is hiring due to Brexit, didn’t dare book an Easter holiday as chaos may have inside around Brexit day, can’t plan anything as don’t know what our finances will be like in a year.

RedRiverShore · 30/03/2019 08:22

Actually if I avoid the news and MN, no-one actually ever mentions it at work or out socially, I have no clue how others voted.

UnPocoLoco2 · 30/03/2019 08:27

I am a remainder ( god I hate the terms remainer remoaner brexiteer etc) but at this stage I just want them to make up their damn minds and get on with it. It's ridiculous . And May hoping to try for a FOURTH time to get her deal through parliament. Talk about flogging a death horse.

InspectorClouseauMNdivision · 30/03/2019 08:30

Yes!

I am an EU citizen and at this point I actually want them to agree that deal so it's finally over...

I am honestly worried that if they were to revoke art 50 (best option for economy), there would be uproar and not a good one. Not everyone who voted to leave is a racist, but every racist voted leave. They would go berserk and I don't want to be afraid to walk on a street. I never was.

I am equally worried that if we crash out with no deal, we are fucked.

Also lost faith in all newspapers. Bbc called Tommy Shitbinson "an anti-islam activist" yesterday and I want my tv licence money back.

Pegsinarow · 30/03/2019 08:36

I get that everyone's fed up but we don't have the luxury to be "sick to death of it" I'm afraid. It's happening (thanks to the arrogant and complacent twunt that is David Cameron) and its an almighty catastrophic self sabotaging (and totally unnecessary) shit show.

Given the events of the past two and three quarter years, anyone (don't mean you op!) who says "we just need to leave and get on with it" frankly has either been living in a cave, or can't have two brain cells to rub together, because it is patently not that easy!

And if Brexit goes ahead, with or without a deal, this is just the start. There will be at least a decade of negotiations to follow. And our economy will be affected detrimentally (even Jacob Rees Smug acknowledges this) as does the Chairman of the Bank of England. We need the economy to be in good shape to support our schools and hospitals.

It's utter madness! And should be stopped!

ChilliMum · 30/03/2019 08:44

Unfortunately whatever happens next, we will be living with the fallout of this for decades.

The country is divided a decision isn't going to change this. Around 50% of the.population will be very unhappy and feeling betrayed. The depth of feeling runs far to deep here.

We are looking at telling 50% of our country that their democratic vote didn't count, these include people who are already disenfranchised due to our ridiculous FPTP system.

The alternative is we remove european citizenship and associated rights from 50% of people against their will.

Westminster has ridden roughshod over Scotland and NI. People are not going to forget this, leave or remain trust in the Union is gone.

Our parliment is an international laughing stock.

Leave or remain, we will be poorer, too much damage has already been done.

We will be leaving this mess for our children to deal with.

I have no idea what the solution is / There isn't going to be one that will repair the damage.

What I do know is we are all complicit in this (although some people are more complicit - looking at you Cameron, Farage and Johnson amongst others) and the continuation of the Us and Them rhetoric. We should hang our heads in shame and apologise to our children but even thats pretty hollow at the moment.

We don't get to be sick of it, we need to grow up and deal with what we have done.

GinUnicorn · 30/03/2019 08:49

It’s crazy. The problem is a referendum was never a good idea. We didn’t have all the facts and there were so many lies.

I don’t think many leavers will be happy with a deal as they see it as soft

I don’t think the economy will recover for a long while from no deal.

Remainers won’t be happy unless we revoke. Half the electorate will feel betrayed. Such an own goal.

RHTawneyonabus · 30/03/2019 08:49

The only way to stop it is to revoke articles 50 and all agree to pretend it never happened

Then we could get back to do all things we should have been doing while we were pissing about with Brexit and worrying about actual issues like the impending climate change catastrophe

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 30/03/2019 08:54

Wish mn would ban anymore Brexit discussions

You do realise reading them is not compulsory?

GreenOliveOrBlackOlive · 30/03/2019 08:57

Does anyone wonder what’s happened about all the other issues government is supposed to deal with? It’s as though every other issue has vanished.
Goodness knows what would happen currently if the country had to suddenly deal with something else that was serious ie a catastrophe or major incident. We seem vulnerable with no one leading us at the minute.

Amongstthetallgrass · 30/03/2019 08:58

The should all be ashamed of themselves. All the MPs are making money out of this embarrassment. It’s all about their own egos.

I feel like I could never vote for a single one of them again. All of them need to scrapped.

It almost feels like it’s been done on purpose, the whole thing tied up in knots so we can’t focus on important issues - like what the government have done the vulnerable people in this county

SlipperyLizard · 30/03/2019 08:59

I think it would be a great strapline in a future referendum (if there is one) “Sick of hearing about Brexit? Vote remain and go back to normal life. Want a decade more of Brexit dominating daily life to the detriment of the UK actually getting anything done? Vote Leave.”

Pegsinarow · 30/03/2019 11:18

Definitely Slipperylizard Grin

TheGardenFairy · 30/03/2019 11:34

Totally sick to death of reading skewed nonsense from remain voters.

Hopefully May will go, Gove will step in and take us out of the EU quickly without all the faffing around. Corbyn would be better off standing down, The Tories have a no confidence vote in Gove, after Brexit, then elect a new Head. Then we should have a GE with new leaders. As it stands it's pointless having a GE. We'll be back to square one. Corbyn has no chance of becoming PM!

Pegsinarow · 30/03/2019 11:48

Well it's "skewed nonsense" in your opinion TheGardenFairy

I'm astonished anyone would want Gove to become pm!

There is no way of leaving the EU quickly. Britain is upending nearly 50 years of economic and foreign policy integration and that is a very complex thing to do. The impact on the UK's prosperity, international relations, influence and security will be HUGE and its effects will be felt for a generation and beyond.

And yet, apparently we can leave "quickly" and without "faffing around" Hmm

TheGardenFairy · 30/03/2019 11:56

We will leave more quickly with Gove in charge. He wants out, as opposed to May, who is a remainer and has chartered the WA in line with what's best for the EU. Hence why it's not being backed. Nobody voted "Leave in the best interests of the EU and pay a hefty divorce settlement for the privilige".

No I don't want Gove to be PM. I loathe the guy. Hence why I said for him to take us out of the EU and then be thrown out and a new leader selected. If you'd read my post you would have gleaned that.

I don't care whether we go out or stay. I would just like to see our government spending time on running the country instead of being embroiled in Brexit for years to come.

The HOC have voted for No to leaving without a deal. They have also voted no to revoking A50. So all that's left is to.leave with a deal....what fucking deal?? How long will it take for them to come up with a deal that Everyone is happy with? Never....and I the meantime this country runs itself.

Pegsinarow · 30/03/2019 12:10

Well I am glad we can agree on Gove at least GardenFairy!

I did read your post carefully and I am not convinced that a change of leader will bring about such an easy and speedy solution as you suggest, as all the same problems about getting a majority in the HofC will remain. And there isn't a majority for any one "solution".

Fair enough if you don't care whether we stay in or out. I do care very much because no deal will be as good for our economy as staying in will be. And our hospitals and schools need the economy to be in sound shape in order to fund them.

[Sorry op - I realise my posts are probably adding to your frustration about the whole process - so I'll bow out now!]

Alsohuman · 30/03/2019 12:12

It’s like Groundhog Day. I’m fascinated, scared and despairing in equal measures. Never bored though.