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To think Johnny depp

77 replies

Smotheroffive · 25/03/2019 15:12

Is abusive based on evidence at trial that he is now refuting.

Am I right in thinking he's now suing his own previous legal team and Amber for defamation of character (for being called abusive)?

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chatnicknameyousuggested · 25/03/2019 18:37

I have part of a finger missing from a bad cut on a very sharp tin!

joyfullittlehippo · 25/03/2019 18:41

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Waitingonasmiley42 · 25/03/2019 18:52

Clearly I have too much time on my hands joyfullittlehippo but found articles saying the arresting officer (female) had a statement on Facebook saying she witnessed the assault. Could be made up of course.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle!

joyfullittlehippo · 25/03/2019 18:56

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Onceuponacheesecake · 25/03/2019 19:00

The both sound abusive and volatile and completely toxic together.

Chathamhouserules · 25/03/2019 19:12

I'm not defending either of them but you're discussing the case as if you have some actual evidence. Citing social media posts, quotes taken out of context, or magazine articles doesn't quite cut it in terms of actual evidence.

Treaclesweet · 25/03/2019 19:18

He seems like an utter knob to me. The Rolling Stone interview was illuminating as to his character.

www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-features/the-trouble-with-johnny-depp-666010/

CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/03/2019 19:28

The female officer apparently made public commentary as Heard and partner we're making all sorts of accusations about her... which could have cost her pay grades, pension etc.

We will never know what really happened but such staunch defence of Heard in the face of this is a bit odd. Something happened...

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 25/03/2019 19:44

Heard may or may not have been abusive towards her ex. It's hard to know as there have been so many conflicting stories regarding her arrest at the airport. Her ex denied the allegations and denied there was any abuse in their relationship. But...its not unheard of for a victim to defend their abusers.

What I do find interesting however is how so many people use Heard's one alleged assault to prove that she must have been the abusive one towards Depp whilst ignoring and dismissing Depps long history of proven assault and violence.

Depp has a long history of violence and assaulting people. He was once arrested for assault and then bragged about it afterwards. Anyone who hits someone and then brags about it later is clearly not normal. And anyone who does this is no doubt capable of assaulting their wife.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 25/03/2019 19:51

Did Heard make any claims about the arresting officer? AFAIK the only person who claimed it was homophobic was Heard's partner.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 25/03/2019 19:57

The female officer apparently made public commentary as Heard and partner we're making all sorts of accusations about her

I don't think that's true actually. I know Heard's partner claimed that a male security guard who she alleged to have made the allegations was homophobic but I've never seen her make any allegations of homophobia towards the arresting officer.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 25/03/2019 20:03

Heard was also released without charge so if a police officer really did witness her assaulting her partner then I don't think that reflects well on the police officer in question tbh. People should be questioning why someone who was witnessed committing a crime was let go and I'd love someone to ask the officer in question this.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 25/03/2019 20:29

It's a very common tactic of abusive men to turn things around and make out like he is the victim. People who work with DV victims are sadly all too aware of this tactic.

Obviously I don't know what happened throughout their relationship but when I heard about this lawsuit my first reaction was that he was using this tactic to continue to assert power over her. Logically if she was the abusive one and he had evidence of that then he would have made this clear when she started to make allegations against him and not three years later when everyone else involved had moved on. Why is this evidence only making an appearance now? Surely if his claims are true then he would have had evidence back then so why didn't he present it then? It doesn't make sense.

I know photos have appeared showing Depp with bruises and a severed finger which he alleges were injuries caused by Heard being violent towards him but there were also photos of Heard with suspicious bruises throughout their relationship. I remember at the time there were people questioning the bruises and doubting Heard's story around the iphone bruise under her eye so why photos of Depp's injuries and how he claimed to have gotten them are just being accepted as fact and not being held under scrutiny and questioned like hers were is beyond me. And again, why have these photos only emerged now? If they were taken during his relationship then he would have had them at the time this whole thing first started. He could have released them back then to prove Heard was the abusive one but he didn't. That looks very suspicious to me.

Perhaps Heard did admit to being violent towards him but what was the context? Did she admit to hitting him unprovoked or was it a case of her lashing out in self defence after being on the receiving end of abuse from him? It's a very difficult thing to judge because all we know is that she admitted to being violent towards him but with no context given.

People who are being abused rarely do absolutely nothing about it. It's not unheard of for a woman who is a victim of domestic violence to lash out at her abusive partner in self defence which the partner will then turn around to make it look like she was the abuser. How do we know this isn't what happened and is happening here?

What I will say however is that I really hope she didn't make any false accusations because if it comes out in the wash that everything was a lie then we'll never hear the end of the cries of how women lie, she has done a massive injustice to real victims, etc.

AbriaFern · 25/03/2019 20:36

“Am I right in thinking he's now suing his own previous legal team and Amber for defamation of character”

Where did you read this?

“Depp has accused the company of conspiring with his former business managers, The Management Group (TMG), to cheat him out of millions, blaming his lawyers for allegedly failing to alert him to their actions, despite knowing what was going on.”

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/03/2019 21:05

Occam's razor.

They are both abusers.

PigOnStilts · 25/03/2019 21:26

I just read that RS article.

This paragraph just makes him look like a textbook abusive bastard:

“I poured myself a vodka in the morning and started writing until the tears filled my eyes and I couldn’t see the page anymore,” he says. He wipes his eyes with the sleeves of his white shirt and continues his monologue. “I kept trying to figure out what I’d done to deserve this. I’d tried being kind to everyone, helping everyone, being truthful to everyone.” He pauses for a moment. “The truth is most important to me. And all this still happened.”

BurpsandHustles · 25/03/2019 21:34

Vanessa paradise has 2 kids with this man. Maybe he was abusive and for the sake of her kids and their relationship now she's moved on and doesn't acknowledge it.
What good would it do?

No rumours of him being violent to her however came out in a decade. they split when he left her.

Violence and anger is not right.

However I have personally known IE 30 years of friendship person driven too anger and throwing by someone who drove them utterly mad, pressed every button, wound them up.
It happens!

Is he a wife beater or did he fuck up?

cantbebotheredtoday · 25/03/2019 21:36

Surprised we are allowed to speak about this on here

BurpsandHustles · 25/03/2019 21:36

When I heard of this law suit just thought he's actually perversely still mad about her and can't let go

doubleshotespresso · 25/03/2019 21:40

I read about this over the weekend. I have a feeling that there is likely to be a lot more to come out on all this , something just does not stack up quite right for me....

They clearly had an unpleasant and volatile relationship, all sounded very unhealthy. I don't think either of them have come out well from this so far

joyfullittlehippo · 25/03/2019 21:44

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Smotheroffive · 25/03/2019 21:49

He's seems to be suingnhis former lawyers,amounts around $30m are being talked about

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MsMarri · 25/03/2019 21:51

I used to love him in the 90's, I now cringe at him and his dodgy eyeliner. He seems utterly insane.

Smotheroffive · 25/03/2019 22:15

I feel the same, I think he's cringey in the extreme.

He's really strange. I watched him being interviewed a while back and he is decidedly odd.

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MorganKitten · 26/03/2019 00:14

No, Heard wasn’t abusive to an ex

Grabbing and hitting her partner.... no not abusive at all.

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