If you are a Labour member please get rid of JC

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He needs to be gone. We need an effective opposition as TMs speech last night showed she is a wannabe dictator. Only card carrying members can get him out.

I'd also be happy with either Kier Starmer or Yvette Cooper.

I'm not a Labour member but gave voted Labour in the past.

I would vote for Yvette Cooper or Tom Watson most definitely.

It's not JC I'm not keen on, it's the entire front bench (apart from Watson).

No I love JC. He can’t do anything right in people’s eyes is the problem. People are more concerned about someone walking out of a meeting on their principles than a PM and party leaving most of the country in poverty and relying on food banks.

Please choose someone who’s not still reading his student manifestos from the 60s.
We need someone modern.

@Uptheduffagai - No Deal Brexit will fuck everyone over and have more people relying on food banks ffs.

@bellinisurge Corbyn doesn’t decide or negotiate the Brexit deal though?

Jeremy Corbyn is brilliant

Corbyn doesn’t decide or negotiate the Brexit deal though?

Not directly, no.

But a parliamentary democracy can only be as strong as the weakest part, and the opposition is a vital to a strong democracy.

A weak opposition corrupts the governing party.

In this case they both resemble tantruming toddlers and as a result we all will be fucked.

@Uptheduffagai , but Corbyn can do what is necessary to make sure we avoid No Deal. He isn't showing that at all. In fact he is acting like someone who welcomes no Deal in the hope of emerging victorious from the chaos. No different to Rees-Mogg.

Just a prime example of what I’m saying really. He’s even being blamed for a no deal Brexit on the basis that he is ‘weak’ well if everyone keeps making out he’s this useless weak politician that just continues to fuel the fire surely? He campaigned for remain, he’s pushed for a labour deals with the EU and negotiated with them. Leavers complain if he looks to be supporting remain, remainers complain because article 50 isn’t being revoked. Obviously with a country split there is always a way to make him seem ‘weak’.

Can we please also remember that of the 2 main parties; 1 of them only thinks in Brexit terms the other 1 is also trying to save the NHS, combat homelessness, save the education system, hold ALL Mps to account, tackle tax avoidance and recoup monies owed to the treasury, ensure the most vulnerable in society are cared for, that pensioners are paid their dues instead of both being driven to early death with universal credit sanctions. I know who I'm voting for whether we stay in or out.

He didn't campaign for Remain. He just didn't campaign for Leave.
If he'd had any belief in Remain he would have shared a platform with DC and said "this bloke is a fucking twat [more politely] but I am so committed to Remain that I will stand next to him and campaign for it ".

And no, he isn't To Blame for Brexit but he's on my list of who is to blame. Lower down the list than Cameron but he's there.

He needs to be gone. Jump or push, who cares.This shit show wouldn't be happening if Yvette Cooper or Keir Starter was leader.

It's worth remembering that the Daily Telegraph encouraged its readers to pay the £3 to register as supporters of the Labour Party so that they could vote for Corbyn in a piece entitled 'How You Can Help Jeremy Corbyn Win - And Destroy The Labour Party'.

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But Jezza appears to believe that the cloth capped working men of yore voted him in. He also seems to think that these are the people who voted for Brexit. Imo much more likely to have been White Van Man and 'the casuals', the football hooligans who are also vocal supporters of England with 'No Surrender' and who are natural Tory voters.
Our political system is set up in such a way that it cannot function properly without an effective Leader of the Opposition.
so, Go Jeremy, Go.

No can do OP, sorry.
I am a card-carrying member of Labour because of of Jeremy Corbyn.
I don't want to see him replaced and would be very happy to see him and his socialist values in Number 10,

It's delusional to think that Labour can win an election with Corbyn at the helm.

No.

The only reason to keep JC is that he is preventing Labour from being elected.

And I say that as someone who loathes the Tories.

God please not keir starmer

I remember when JC became leader of the Labour party, a friend if mine said he was a Tory plant to make sure Labour never got into power.

It seemed like a ridiculous idea at the time...

Big issue is the garden tax - I got big garden tiny house, I be beyond poor! Ridiculous

Garden tax purely to punish people for living rurally and not being part of the metropolitan Labour voting class. Absurd.

This government is the biggest shitshow ever and all you can talk about is getting rid of Jeremy Corbyn. What's wrong with you?

It's not "all I can talk about ". But I would like an Opposition leader that I can look to. For leadership.
He's just like every twatty ineffectual gobshite I went to University with in the 1980s.

He’s a fucking disgrace and God help us all if one day he becomes PM

How about if you are a Labour member you decide what to do. OP YABU.