To think the weakest argument in defence of a child abuser is to say, well he didn't abuse me.

[Seeleyboo]

Just that really. And I'm sick of hearing people say well if they didn't abuse me then they can't be abusers. Clearly I'm talking about MJ. As a survivor of sexual abuse, I feel sick hearing this statement. I also met MJ in a professional capacity and feel gutted that we chatted, touched, hugged, laughed and generally had fun. Anyone else feel the same.

I'm not a survivor but I'm tired of it too. Murders don't kill everyone they meet. Rapists don't rape every woman they encounter. Burglars don't break and enter into every house so why do people think that it's any different for child abuse?

Perfectly said spot. Thank you. Really gets to me but you've hit the nail on the head.

Corey Feldman has defended MJ for years, saying pretty much just that. But he has now even said that he was wrong to defend him, and he has to conclude that MJ was an abuser.

Sorry. That should say murderers.

What a symbolic shit storm this is. How many more boys don't want to come forward because of the backlash they will receive from the the die hard fans.

I feel very sorry for Corey Feldman. Amongst all the paedophiles who did abuse him he must have felt that MJ was a safe adult. Now he finds out that he wasn't :(

I'm sick of people having opinions about other people's experiences in general. Just stop it. The only person who owns the experience is the one who lived it.

Elliottboy. Well said

I was abused by a teacher as a teenager, and defended his weird behaviour to everyone at the time.
He was a special breed of cunt who emotionally manipulated me to the point that I felt like I needed him in my life to make my life relevant.
That’s the vibe I got from the men accusing MJ in the documentary too. They grew up in pretty normal circumstances, not rolling in cash, and I think it’s probably that MJ used the whole “I’m giving you and your family all these material things, so I can do what I want and you’ll love me anyway” thing.
Manipulation is the top weapon in a sexual abuser’s arsenal, and that’s what mentally destroys he victims forever.

I agree, for the love of god why will people not see what is blatantly obvious. MJ had a bad childhood....so what. So do a lot of people but they do not crawl into bed with children for some childhood fun, Also if MJ was an ugly man who had bad music people would not be so blinded by his musical talent, It is almost like his supporters are blind or they choose not to see.

He never abused me, he had plenty of opportunities to abuse me as we often shared a bed alone, at his insistence because of privacy and other stuff he told me was true but he never abused me
He wasn't like that.
He told me he wasn't and I'm a good judge of character.

Yeah it's not convincing

Well, my MIL said (about her partner who went to prison and we have NC with) “he can’t even get it up with me, so definitely can’t get it up for a child” (despite DNA evidence to the contrary). Some people just like to live in denial.

mind that is a fucking horrific statement from MIL.

Thank you for your bravery. All of you.

My abuser was.....The nice guy from the pub....The guy who was married.....worked for the queen.....a father.....My stepfather.....such a lovely man....bless him that I bought shame upon him and his family when I told. Apparently I was a hussy. A dirty whore. I was 5 when it started.

I think a lot of it is people sharing their experiences (aand partly because many people are assuming they were also abused) and feeling confusion and anger towards others. I haven't actually heard anyone say 'he didn't abuse me therefore he couldn't have abused anyone', merely sharing their personal experiences and personal opinions on accusations.

There has been so much going on that not everything going around is true. For example, Corey Feldman has not said that he has to conclude that Michael is an abuser!

Anyone who has suffered will naturally feel anger towards things others have said. But people are entitled to their opinions and there is serious sniping on both sides.

The whole thing is a complete mess

Seeleyboo I hear you, I was also a very little child too - age 3 and an 'enticer'.

Another enticer to a weak man, despite being barely pubescent when it started. Fuck the abuser-enabling-apologists.

I think more and more will come out,now the truth has started to emerge maybe MJ was only attracted to some young boys and not others ?

Couldn't agree more.
That's my life right there too.. Mother..... He didn't abuse your sister or anything of the sort so you're lying.

Sister... Well he never touched me so you're lying.

I think it's the first time I've thought about that side of it and realised that my answers to them should have been so different.

Pervs are picky not random and they never abuse those they can't control.