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AIBU?

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To be annoyed...

54 replies

Oartistic · 13/03/2019 09:57

...by people who refer to 'my eldest' and 'my youngest' when they only have two children?

OP posts:
DachsAndPups · 13/03/2019 10:43

I once had this argument with DH and we looked it up in various grammar sources to prove one another wrong and both independently concluded that both elder/younger and eldest/youngest are technically acceptable grammatically even if the more usual utilisation of -est is applied when there are more than two.

Littlebelina · 13/03/2019 10:43

Not offended by your post btw op just pointing out why I do it in case I'm one of the people making you murderous

ColeHawlins · 13/03/2019 10:47

also trying not to be a pedantic arse about 'insight' and 'incite' in response to the third reply to my OP

But there are people wandering around saying "invite" for invitation, and "electric" when they mean electricity, which throws the pernickity stuff and homophones into the shade, really.

You must be permanently pissed off.

CardiganB · 13/03/2019 10:53

Are you Jacob Rees Mogg?

pepperpot99 · 13/03/2019 10:54

Just say 'bigun' and 'littleun' and have done with it FFS.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 13/03/2019 10:55

Eh? How could this be offensive?

Unless you have more than 2 children, and somehow feel people with "only" 2 children are trying to falsely suggest that they, like you, have a larger family? (Ok I'm reaching, I just have no idea why this would bother you).

pepperpot99 · 13/03/2019 10:55

And yes you are BU OP if this is really worth an entire thread Hmm

MadeleineMaxwell · 13/03/2019 10:55

Wow...I have to salute your pedantry. I thought I was bad, but this wasn't even on my radar!

pepperpot99 · 13/03/2019 10:56

Naaah Rees Mogg would call them 'Maximus' and 'Minimus' or something equally twattish.

cloudymelonade · 13/03/2019 11:18

I know plenty of people who do this, it gets the point across, YABU to be annoyed.

One of my friends also lost a child between her youngest and eldest so whilst the majority may only be referring to two DC, you don't know what the situation might be.

MrsWillGardner · 13/03/2019 11:36

also trying not to be a pedantic arse about 'insight' and 'incite' in response to the third reply to my OP

Yep definitely being pedantic.

Am I allowed to say ‘yep’?

Oartistic · 13/03/2019 11:38

@ColeHawlins Don't get me started on those. I try to shut my eyes and ears.

@MadeleineMaxwell I can probably be even more pedantic than this. Eldest/youngest is just the one that I keep seeing on MN, which is why it irks me on a more or less daily basis.

For those who are wondering (this is not many of you, I realise), I have two children. An elder child and a younger child, if I had to distinguish between them in conversation.

OP posts:
PregnantSea · 13/03/2019 15:24

You should call the police and have them arrested

NWQM · 13/03/2019 15:25

I used to loath Christmas cards that said 'to x , x and family'. I'm an only child. My name has exactly as the same number of letters.

Topseyt · 13/03/2019 15:31

I always refer to my eldest daughter as my eldest, and my youngest as my youngest.

I have a middle daughter too. What should I call her? Hmmmmm!

If it makes you feel murderous then I guess I should probably keep out of your way. Grin

Oartistic · 13/03/2019 22:14

Not at all, @Topseyt, because you're using the words correctly. My gripe is with people who don't!

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Sparklingbrook · 13/03/2019 22:20

I cannot get worked up about this i am afraid.

FlirtyRomanticToast · 13/03/2019 22:57

I totally get it!! I have two and I know that the correct terms are 'younger child' and 'elder child' but I feel like if I use the correct terminology I sound like a knob.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 13/03/2019 23:04

I'm so rubbish at grammar I never realised this was incorrect. I say it all the time!

If anyone would like to explain in detail why is wrong I'd be grateful

Furrydogmum · 14/03/2019 07:31

Charlie Chan - no 1 son etc...

HighestMountains · 14/03/2019 07:32

No wonder so many mums post on these boards that they are struggling to make friends with other mums when there are women around who analyse every minutiae of every interaction they ever have and judge people for it

This.

CardsforKittens · 14/03/2019 07:55

This is precisely why I had three children: so I could use terms like eldest and youngest without annoying those around me.

Gatehouse77 · 14/03/2019 08:19

DH and I had this discussion recently.
We have an eldest and youngest child but and elder/younger daughters!

Whilst I agree that it's grammatically correct what you are saying I can also accept that language is organic and ever changing even if it grates sometimes - medcine instead medicine, proply instead of properly - I try to let it go. But it's harder with some things than others!

ColeHawlins · 14/03/2019 08:21

That's what I call planning @CardsforKittens Grin

BloodyBosch · 14/03/2019 09:11

You may be incorrect in your assumptions- someone who has suffered the loss of a child / children may still refer to them.
Of five pregnancies I have two children now. They are the eldest and youngest of those five.

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