To think no, she shouldn't "have faith in the justice system"

[IceRebel]

The father of Olly Sheridan has been in the news again today, to say Ellie Yarrow-Sanders should have faith in the justice system and bring him home.

Having followed the case for the last few months I can't see why she should have faith in them, and I hope her and Olly are safe and well.

They can’t make any guarantees until the case has been heard. The court’s hands are tied

@Bowchicawowow

I’m guessing you work in the system. Do you think it works well? Honestly?

They can’t make any guarantees until the case has been heard.

But if they genuinely weren't going to remove Olly into foster care surely they could say that there had been a mistake / misunderstanding. If Ellie hasn't realised the actual purpose of the guardian, then why can't they make a public announcement to reassure her?

Ellie there's only a tiny chance you're reading this but I believe you. Don't look back 💙
I hope you have somewhere to stay, some help and money.

How can women ever be expected to have faith in a justice system constructed by men? The rape conviction rates and the exclusion of misogyny from laws on hate speech speak volumes.

But if they genuinely weren't going to remove Olly into foster care surely they could say that there had been a mistake / misunderstanding

I agree. She was clearly petrified of losing her son and believed he could be so cruel as to ask for his son to be put in foster care just to spite her. The fact she believed this shows she has probably seen him act this cruelly in the past. He may have told her that's what it meant as well. She needs reassurance.

My father once threatened my mother that if she left he would never let her take my sibling and me. He didn't care about us, didn't parent us in any way, was incapable of looking after us, was abusive but said it and would have done it to spite her. Years later when she left him, he threatened to burn the house down where my sibling and I were staying unless she returned. Some people will go to any lengths to spite another. It happens and this lady needs listening to. I can see through people who act like model citizens but are abusive and manipulative. I can spot them after talking to them for a few minutes after experiencing years of it with my father.

I am sad to say despite what the Judge says in public her actions would go against her

I also feel that this may be the case. Whilst I don't agree with her running, I can empathise with the reasons why she felt she had to do so.

I am sad to say despite what the Judge says in public her actions would go against her

But they really shouldn't. If what she says is true, she wasn't taking him away from a normal loving father, quite the opposite.

To a frightened mother, who doesn't feel she is being listened to, what good is a voice in court?

She’ll be given her voice in court, only to have his barrister rip anything she says to shreds.

I don’t blame her for running.

I hope that they're safe. It's either a masterclass in avoiding the authorities or something far more sinister.

Can't blame her really. I read somewhere that going through the family court system was as stressful as going through care proceedings. She's obviously very frightened and you can't blame her. The family courts aren't known for listening to abused women. All they care about is forcing children to have contact with the abusive father and threatening the mothers with having residence removed if they don't comply.

It's either a masterclass in avoiding the authorities or something far more sinister.

It is worrying that there hasn't been any contact with her family / friends.

Even if she has had any contact they wouldn't be able to say, would they?

I doubt any of her family is particularly trusting of the authorities at this point.

That reads particularly arsey, it's not the intention.

Having faith in a justice system is very difficult when the prisons are in a mess and the probation service changes have led to increased rates of re-offending. The two main architects of this, Chris Grayling and Liz Truss should be the ones to be in court.

That reads particularly arsey, it's not the intention.

I didn't read it that way at all. You make a valid point.

This is chilling.

I saw this in the papers a few months ago, I hadn't even seen her letter at that point, but I could see straight away what that man was.

People will think I'm talking shit, but as someone who walked away from an abusive relationship 11 years ago, I can't smell an abusive man a mile off.

That poor young woman and little boy.

Agreed SkyPatrol it's a very chilling story, and I can only imagine how most of us would have have acted if we were in her shoes.

@Skypatrol same

You can see this for what it is without even reading her letter