To think Caitlyn Jenner has had a personality transplant?

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Loved Bruce Jenner, but since he became Caitlyn, I think her personality has changed completely and not in a good way! You would think after carrying around that burden all your life that it would be a relief to get it out in the open, but if anything, Caitlyn seems to be angrier and more unhappy than ever.

Anyone else notice this?

Yes she's awful.

Yes I think Caitlin is very much someone who says what they think/want and courtesy/kindness be damned.

Possibly the mental effort of being Brave and Stunning all the time?

Used to really like bruce. Perhaps it is because of Kris? Always seemed to be overridden by her

Caitlyn jenner once said they love being Feirce i stopped listening after that what a total arsehole and the children were forced to accept caitlyn on television that is unforgivable, well selected children Bruces other children have stayed well clear,

I think the "anger" happens to a lot of TW.

Those I have seen/spoken with on SM are very anger verging on aggressive most have passed verging and are just downright aggressive

I think the reason is despite the huge lifestyle change, physical change and sadly the loss of family and friends they are still not fully accepted as women. They are always for the most part seen as TW. So the lie they were sold or chose to believe is just that...a lie. I think this makes some very angry and aggressive especially towards women.

Thats just my view.

It’s probably the realisation that being all ‘feminine’ and ‘glamorous’ isn’t quite the fun picnic they anticipated

Cant say I noticed but I don't watch much TV, but just to point out that deadnaming people doesn't go well. They tend to get upset about it.
To add, I don't give any fucks about such things but some people do.

Agree! Used to love Bruce, he seemed the most normal and happy to be bossed around but caitlyn is so up herself and conceited. Plus she's dating someone aged about 20 and getting far less flack tha n Scott is re Sophia.

Who cares? Why?

But....but....isn’t Jenner supposed to be bitchy, because women are ‘bitchy’? Just like we all dress like glamorous women or prostitutes.

I thought you werent allowed to use the B-word (not bitch).

Could it be all the hormones she's on?

Caitlin Jenner lived most of her adulthood as rich white Republican man. Not surprised she's turned out to be a bit of a dick.

Or playing up to the role - doing a Joan Collins diva bit? Wasn’t she play a horror in Dynasty or something?

Tbf on Caitlyn I don't think she gets offended by deadnaming she kinda has to acknowledge when she goes and plays golf under her birthname

What? How useful to have a male and female persona then! I must remember that when there’s a long queue for the ladies!

Deadnaming? I don’t think that applies when someone is 70 years old and has had a high public profile under their previous name. As far as I understood it, that only applies when someone is just a regular person and no-one is aware of their transition and previous name so you’re effectively outing them by saying their previous name. Hardly the case for Jenner who is from the most publicity hungry family in the known universe.

Try telling Lils that then. Their face is all over the place and they get very upset when someone uses the name their parents gave them at birth.

Ah update Caitlyn now plays golf as a lady i had read something a while ago caitlyn had to play as Bruce

And it’s not exactly hard to spot that Doris on Accounts was more likely to have been a Derek as a child. Human nature as it is - people will speculate and gossip - you can’t deny the fact that Doris was indeed (and possibly still is) male bodied as a child/young man.

No, that person has always been a dick.

But when they were Bruce, it was socially acceptable.

Maybe people who have transitioned are now finding out it can be pretty fucking shit to be a woman?

The loss of male privilege might not be appreciated whilst transitioning, as there's a fuckton of other shit to be dealing with - family, friends, strangers, the hormones, the surgeries, etc - but once the physical side is over, what might (I don't know, obviously, I just know what it's like from having grown up with it) become apparent is that the world is not, as a rule, a particularly nice place to be a woman, even if the physical transition is the best/most natural looking that money can buy. After a while, does being yelled at across the street, not for being trans, but for being female, not jar? Does being ignored or talked down to not jar? Does failing to get job interviews they are sure they would have got, had they used a male sounding name on the application, not jar? Does feeling extremely vulnerable at night - or any time of the day, not because they are trans but because they're female, not jar? Is the fact they've not been offered the salary/raise they would have got pretransition not due to being trans, but is due to being female?

And there are the expectations that might have been taken on board - if there isn't a perfect figure/a few pounds go on, they feel they look like shit, if their makeup isn't perfect, if their nails aren't perfect, if their clothes aren't perfect, they feel they look like shit. After a few years, wearing heels is gonna make their feet, knees and lower back hurt. Waxing fucking hurts. Threading eyebrows and facial hair (like the peach fuzz most humans have irrespective of gender) fucking hurts. There's underarm hair, there's arm hair, there's body hair (if they haven't been able to afford laser from top to literally toe or they are naturally blonde, so laser epilation doesn't work).

There's the natural ageing process, female pattern baldness, possibly concerns about breast cancer - and I wouldn't be surprised if, post transition, any health complaints taken to some GPs are dismissed as 'it's your hormones' or 'all part of ageing', or even 'have you considered the possibility that you're depressed?'.

Could it be all the hormones she's on? I’m on hrt and previously suffered from severe pmt due to my hormones, but I wasn’t a dick.

I don’t really know the person but maybe they are acting the same but as a woman it comes across as horrible because - it’s naturally male (you don’t change overnight after a lifetime of being ‘man’) or maybe it’s not ‘ladylike’.

Either way, playing the ‘man’ card to play golf is a bit cheaty.