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Sons name Caleb pronounced differently, anyone else have child’s name like this 😡

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Tonijo1990 · 08/03/2019 22:08

Hi
So my son is 8 months and called Caleb
We pronounce it cay - leb (as in leb in the word celeb ).
everyone else pronounces it cay - lub as in the u in urgh (not lub that rhymes with tub 😂 lol)
We are so annoyed that we are thinking of changing his name
I correct people all the time but I’ve been told we’ve spelt it wrong and say it wrong even by my own sister and mil
It’s in the blooming bible haha
I do understand the name has modernised to be Kaleb though
Has anyone else got a child who seems like they have two names with the pronunciation?? Or anyone with a Caleb ??

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MargeAtLarge · 09/03/2019 07:40

I had chosen Imogen (I-mo-gen) if my last baby had been a girl ... but he was a boy Smile My niece then had a girl and called her Imogen - beautiful... but with the regional accent she is known as ImIGIN .. quite glad I had a boy now Grin

Tonijo1990 · 09/03/2019 07:49

Haha we take the mick and say cah leb 😂 we heard it on you tube
but tbh we call him cj , Caleby , Calaby , baby and cub
So maybe I shouldn’t be so sensitive Smile

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mathanxiety · 09/03/2019 07:51

It maybe essentially the same name but it’s NOT the same name Grin
I’d just appreciate if people were to make the effort to say it how my son is named , not be like you’re wrong and I’m still calling him cay lub

But it is the same name. Not essentially, or basically. It is the same name.
It is perfectly correct to pronounce that syllable as a U sound (as a schwa).

Do you say lemon or lemun? Melon or melun? Syllable or sylluble?

How do you say -
'taken' - the E is a schwa
'pencil' - the I is a schwa
'memory' - the O is a schwa
'supply' - the U is a schwa
'rhythm' - the vowel sound between TH and M is a schwa
'sibyl' - the Y sound is a schwa

Jacob - that O is a schwa; it is pronounced as a u
Helen - the E is a schwa; same
Caleb - another E schwa; same

Quooker · 09/03/2019 07:52

The biblical pronunciation would be ca - lib / ca as in cat.

Catsandbootsandbootsandcats · 09/03/2019 07:58

I definitely pronounce it with the Leb sounded out properly. In fact his nickname is Leb, or Lebby, not Lb, lub etc.

His brother is Reuben and that is much more a schwa sound as I don't pronounce the Ben sound (but Roo-bin annoys me, same person!Wink)

superram · 09/03/2019 08:00

I’m northern but live in the south and don’t have much of an accent either way. I think I sound somewhere between the two. I also say dan-yul.

MadisonAvenue · 09/03/2019 08:00

I only know one Caleb, an adult, and his name is pronounced Ca-lem (which is how I’d pronounce it anyway) although he usually gets called Cal.

likablum · 09/03/2019 08:00

The second syllable is unstressed so it sort of loses its distinctive sound when it is pronounced. The same thing happens with any name with that sound at the end - linguists call it a schwa sound.

So Hannah, Emma, Peter, etc all have a uh sound, it would be weird if you emphasised the second syllable and said Em-AH, unless you are Italian.

I think you are being a bit precious. There's not that much difference between leb and lub.

MadisonAvenue · 09/03/2019 08:00

*-leb, not -lem

mathanxiety · 09/03/2019 08:04

You can have a Leb nickname and still use the schwa when pronouncing the full name.

Honestly, I defer to the preference of parents, but the schwa is perfectly correct and if you listen closely you will find it in pretty much all English words and a huge number of proper nouns - England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Italy... Words are not being pronounced wrong if the vowel sound is the schwa. There are actually very few words where vowels are pronounced exactly as they are written.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 09/03/2019 08:04

What’s a Ronseal name?

It's a brand of wood-stain/varnish sold in the UK for which the makers have long used the advertising slogan "It does exactly what it says on the tin."

Therefore, in the UK, it's used as a short-cut to denote something clear and straightforward without any floweriness or fluffiness - kind of like calling a florist's 'The Flower Shop' as opposed to 'Brenda's Beautiful Blooms' or 'Aurora Florealis'.

In case it wasn't obvious to anybody, I called Caleb a 'Ronseal' name for a dog as, apparently, the name Caleb means 'dog'.

HeronLanyon · 09/03/2019 08:04

‘many a blub twixt the leb and the lub’

Who’d ‘a thunk it?

Btw op, your sister sounds an absolute pain in the ass about this.

TrainSong · 09/03/2019 08:05

I've only ever heard it pronounced the way you say it: Cay-leb. Cah-lub sounds odd.

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emilybrontescorsett · 09/03/2019 08:14

I'd say ca leb.

MadAboutWands · 09/03/2019 08:17

If I was you OP I would give up.
It seems people think it s ok to pronounce a name the way they want and nit the way it is pronounced.
All this stuff about accent between the south and north etc... is rubbish. Most people are totally about the sport acceht for any other words and pronounced them correctly. We. Are motntaling abiut a foreign language.
What we do have is the feeling that it’s ok to shorten or lengthen name, use nickname just because people feel Ike it and the owner if the name has to suck it up.
I think the same think is at play there. People will pronounce th enamel the way they want because that’s how they do it and they will expect you to sick it up.

Hippywannabe · 09/03/2019 08:25

With all these Calebs, does anyone want for free a personalised Spiderman 0-3 month babygrow? It's too cute to throw but no good for anyone else!

Tonijo1990 · 09/03/2019 08:26

I don’t care about schwa
It’s my sons name and il say it how I want it said
I didn’t post this to for people to correct me , I asked if others have a son called Caleb or a name of a child people pronounce differently

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HeronLanyon · 09/03/2019 08:27

Grin sick or suck - now there’s a difference !!

Tonijo1990 · 09/03/2019 08:27

Yes my sister is an ass
She has a dd called ivee instead of ivy aswell 😂

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TaurielTest · 09/03/2019 08:27

If it helps with correcting people, the issue here is vowel reduction. You say /ˈkeɪlɛb/, they say /ˈkeɪləb/. The stress falls on the first syllable. In the second syllable, you prefer to have a full e vowel ("leb") while some people are reducing that vowel to the centralized, unstressed vowel called schwa (as in the first syllable of "ago" or the second syllable of "bacon"). Speakers' levels of vowel reduction vary from person to person and dialect to dialect, and there's not much you can do about it except say "it's "leb" not "ləb"".
I don't see how spelling it with a K would make any difference!

Tonijo1990 · 09/03/2019 08:28

Yes Caleb does mean dog 😂

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Shakirasma · 09/03/2019 08:29

It doesnt matter how a name is written or where a person is from, it should be pronounced as the parents choose it to be, and later on how the child chooses. Basic manners!

I have a name that can be pronounced a couple of different ways and can be shortened multiple ways but my parents chose my name and i like it how it is. I find it rude when people presume to pronounce it their way or shorten it. Its my name, part of my identity so have the decency to say it my given way please!

Thirtyrock39 · 09/03/2019 08:30

I would say Cal - eb. Would never say cay for the first syllable

Tonijo1990 · 09/03/2019 08:34

I think it gets to me more because I say cay leb and correct them ( a nice way of we say it cay leb) yet they still say lub, to me that’s rude
But I’m going to stick with leb and I see everyone’s point on here about the accents and the schwa etc
I like the name and I guess little man can decide whether he will be bothered when he’s older or not
Next time I’ll go for a name everyone can pronounce the same 😂😂

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