How can a father do this to his own son

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How could he do it to any 3 year old, let alone his own son, just because he couldn’t control his wife anymore 😞
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-47446674

The irony of wanting to harm his own child to “prove” that the mother was an unfit parent

8 measly years, which in reality means 4 with 'good behaviour'

No, the sentence is 16 years.

He presumably can't be named to preserve the anonymity of the child.

Do we know that the father was given asylum? It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the report.

I’m guessing he won’t be getting a warm reception in prison - it won’t be difficult to identify him. One sick crazy nutjob is one thing but to be able to find four more who would willingly harm a small child is absolutely baffling.

I’m really hoping there isn’t some lawyer currently working away (at the taxpayers expense) to secure his rights to see the child and his right to stay in the uk under his ‘human rights to family life’.

It brings to mind the mum who was recently stabbed to death by her estranged husband because she left him and wouldn’t support his residency petition (or whatever it’s called). She had 3 or 4 children I believe and he chased her down outside a school.

What is going on in the heads of these men - destroy what they cant have?

Disgusting.

I live ten minutes from the shop this happened in. Absoloutely shocking and disgusting. I hope he rots.

Completely get it that he shouldn't be named to protect the child, but surely in this case the best thing they could do is extradite him if possible and, if not, give the child and mother new identities if she so wishes. Hopefully they have done that- It doesn't seem like someone like this would just give up after a minor inconvenience like a four year prison spell. That woman will never have a moment's peace after this.

Absolutely disgusting.

There needs to be an intensive “re education” programme for men convicted of violent crimes against partners/ex partners and their children. Compulsory while they’re in prison and their release is reliant on them successfully completing it and undergoing appropriate, thorough assessment to show they’ve actually changed. Will never happen though.

Fucking vile..and as I often find in such cases, the sentence is pathetic.

I just can’t comprehend how such a large group of men were willing to plot to harm a toddler. As the judge said, many of them had their own children. Can you imagine knowing your dad or husband planned an acid attack on another child? It is really terrifying that there are men willing to kill or maim their own children because they hate their wives or partners. It goes against every natural instinct to protect little ones from harm.

He wont have a fun time in jail. He'll be lucky to last even part of his time. 80% of people in there hate people of different races and also probably the same in there hate people who abuse kids. So double trouble for him. I hope he rots. Slowly. And with much ridicule along the way.

I presume he will be deported after serving his sentence.

What upsets me, this man came to the uk for a better life but he didn’t want his wife to have any freedom of this life and brought his caveman attitude wwiith him. He should be deported and stripped of his uk citizenship

Omg some people sell their souls for money

What upsets me, this man came to the uk for a better life but he didn’t want his wife to have any freedom of this life and brought his caveman attitude wwiith him.

While this man is a complete arsehole, deserves the worst of all punishments- but your statement is rather offensive implying that the Afghan life is caveman life.

Ive seen white British fathers rape their own kids and do worse. Insanity is across borders, and the UK passport is not a trophy for the elite of morality.

Haworthia

"...It’s one thing for a man to hate his ex-wife so much he’s prepared to throw acid in his own child’s face, but I found astonishing was he found a bunch of friends who also hated women so much they were prepared to carry out his plan.*

Eh. I don't find it astonishing at all, depressingly. Just repugnant.

There needs to be some serious changes to sentencing in this country. 8 measly years, which in reality means 4 with 'good behaviour' for such an atrocious crime is letting that poor boy down.

I agree though he actually got 16 years.... hence the reference to being out in 8. The sentence is far to lenient... it should be life!

So many stories of men harming children in the news today, for some reason, whether their own or others. It’s sickening.

Yes, of course, NAMALT, and my own DH is lovely but I do wonder what primitive level these kinds of men exist on, like some bear in the wild that eats its cubs. I wish instead of Viagra someone would invent a pill these men could take to stop them being such sick violent pieces of shit who hurt women and children.

I do wonder what primitive level these kinds of men exist on, like some bear in the wild that eats its cubs

I truly hope it’s not part of their make.

In the kite runner I read that Afghan men experience Lots of abuse as kids.. sexual and acid and all sorts.. partly to do with the war and conditions there where humanity has been dismissed.

I think the abused often abuse. They’re just desensitized.

However, out of love and compassion, such destroyed souls are unfit to become parents and are unfit to become healthy members of society and need therapy as well as to be stopped from what they’re capable of.

The poor boy and his mother :(.

He did it because how he is percieved by the world at large is more important to him than his son's life.

I think the abused often abuse. They’re just desensitized.

I don’t mean this in generic terms as I know there are many who have been abused that could be reading this.

I meant, I’m a context where someone is abused by a perpetrator and society holds that abused to high regards and doesn’t acknowledge the wrong doing to the victim, I feel like they internalize the message of : Abuse=power.

Thankfully in the UK, victims have a much stronger voice and reassurance to get acknowledged, especially children.. and so the victim grows up knowing that they and their childhood is valuable and the perpetrator is in the wrong.

Internalized messages by the consequences put in society.

I’m so glad the child is seeing the consequence of his fathers actions. His childhood matters.

I agree Dora, abuse can become normalised in societies/groups where it isn't condemned.

I just don’t understand the mental process of people like this. What exactly did he think would happen? Did he think that he could never get caught? That the mum would be blamed for a very weird and suspicious attack on a small child? How stupid is he and his accomplices?

I know a fair amount of crime is carried out by people who don’t fear consequences or don’t have the brainpower to think about ‘what happens next’ but the pure stupidity, selfishness, arrogance and bastardness (hey it’s still early) of this creature is really horrifying.

He wanted the child? No he just didn’t want the mum to have the child - he was punishing her for leaving him. He didn’t get a rats about that poor kid.

Where’s the “honour” in maiming your 3 year old child.... It’s so twisted and fucked up as to be almost literally beyond belief. Is there anyone who would for a second think, whatever the culture, that “his wife left him - but at least he’s an honourable man again now he’s got a bunch of low-lifes to disfigure his three-year old son for life in an excruciatingly painful acid attack. He can hold his head high again!”

The fact he found a number of willing accomplices makes a sickeningly disturbing story even more sickening.

Just to clarify, when I say in my previous post ‘these men’, I mean all men who harm children rather than specifically the men in this case or Afghan men.

Child abuse is present in all cultures but, yes, if you grow up in a culture where it goes unpunished then you’re more likely to perpetuate the violence.