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AIBU to cut contact with friend completely?

17 replies

VivaFrida · 04/03/2019 18:45

Whilst volunteering for an organisation I made friend with another volunteer.

We both shared some common problems (similar mental health issues), although mine are less severe: I am highly functional, and I have been able to hold on jobs, carve up a career and a name for myself in difficult field, I have my own home and have created a family, whereas she still lives in the family home in her late 30s and is unemployed.

There were some part of her personality that left me a bit uncertain about this friendship, such as her lying on her achievements (offering contradicting versions of events, mentioning things she has achieved and then in front of others who know her past denying she had said that), dominating meetings, ignoring procedures, etc.

But what was really concerning was that she started to intrude in my family life, asking to come round, inviting herself for dinner and even inviting herself round on Christmas eve! I come from a big family so I wasn't too concerned but my children and hubby felt it was over the top.

I think part of my friendship was based on the fact that I could see myself in her shoes: if I had less support in my past I could have ended up in a similar situation. I also used to lie and do some of the thoughtless things she does like dominating a meeting, have a big ego, etc. So I had huge sympathy for her.

Things came at a standstill when I had to cease my charity work because of a big deadline at work, and also to reclaim some time for my own life. She then started to bombard me with messages about meeting up because she was "worried about me" and I tried to convey that there was nothing to worry about, I was on a huge (albeit temporary) work load and please could she back off. I did not use exactly these words but kinder messages which conveyed the same meaning.

Then, on deadline day when I had been up since six am working at a document which was due that afternoon, she came to my house unannounced to "check on me" - I was kind but firm, told her she should not have done that because I was really busy, and that I would be seeing her another time.

So, at that point she messaged my other half saying that she was worried about me, that I slammed the door in her face (which I certainly did not), that this was a sure sign that my mental health was deteriorating and that she was deeply hurt by my behaviour.

Fortunately my other half is a no-nonsense kind of person and told her that if she had showed up at his office unannounced in a normal working day he would not have had the time to stop everything and be with her, let alone if she had come on a project deadline day.

After this she cut me off completely from shared messaging groups, etc., perhaps wanting me to react; whereas I wrote to her a "back off" email in which I said (kindly) that because of these boundaries of mine (coming round unannounced, writing about me to my husband behind my back) that she did not respect, I was taking a break from our friendship, although I would always be kind and respectful to her.

We had some great times together and sometimes I miss her companionship but do not miss the lies, having responsibility for one more person, and feeling that I had to provide shelter, food and solutions.

So... am I being unreasonable to want to cut communications without having a face-to-face discussion about it? Shall I try to salvage some kind of friendly relationship or am I correct in having all my arm bells ringing about this person and this was a lucky escape?

Mumsnet wisdom, am I being unreasonable (and perhaps a bit cold hearted? ) to put a stop to this friendship?

OP posts:
maslinpan · 04/03/2019 18:50

No, you don't owe her anything after she has repeatedly trampled all over your boundaries. Don't try and meet her, just leave it all behind you, otherwise she will get into your head again!

DullPortraits · 04/03/2019 18:53

Walk away from this "friendship" trust me!! from experience you will not regret doing so.. in the long term you will look back at all of this and see things you didn't at the time x

Singlenotsingle · 04/03/2019 18:54

I don't think you're cold hearted at all. You've been kind and patient for a long time, and put up with a lot. She's just too attention seeking and intrusive, and you haven't got enough time to deal with it all. You certainly don't need a face to face post mortem. It would be painful for both of you.

Stressedout10 · 04/03/2019 18:56

Run, run far away

werideatdawn · 04/03/2019 18:57

Don't walk away from the friendship. Run!

IvanaPee · 04/03/2019 19:00

You’ve already handled it well. The difficult part is stepping back, which you’ve done.

Don’t undo the good you’ve managed by going back to the same patterns.

Drum2018 · 04/03/2019 19:05

Block her from all social media, from your phone and move on with your life without her dramas. It's unfortunate she has MH issues but she overstepped the boundaries calling to your house and making out you were not well - then claiming you were unwell to your own husband - what on earth was she thinking? Don't initiate any more contact with her. If she does manage to contact you somehow, then tell her you are not available to be friends.

InsomniaTho · 04/03/2019 19:06

Yeah fuck that.

I have MH issues. Severe ones. For a long time I couldn’t function very well. Now I’m at University, single (well, very new relationship after a very long time single) with 3DC in tow and have a very fine balance with my MH, DC and studying.

I have close friends with various MH issues and absolutely none of them would interrupt me on a deadline WEEK let alone day. If they did, and they were in crisis, I’d be fine with it, but if they intruded for no fucking reason I’d be furious.

NWQM · 04/03/2019 19:06

I agree that you have already tried to make the friendship work. Don't confuse things by having a chat about the friendship not continuing

marvellousnightforamooncup · 04/03/2019 19:11

You've been more than polite and reasonable. Move on, don't look back.

VivaFrida · 04/03/2019 20:26

Wow thank you all for this amazing support and all your insights/suggestions/advice. I am going to try to address them all

maslinpan "after she has repeatedly trampled all over your boundaries" - that's exactly how I feel.

DullPortraits yes, I know exactly what you mean, I have already started to reassess and I am not giving examples because I do not want to sound bit*hy... oh well just one, once she we in my kitchen with me, my kids and my husband and I bend down to pick up a pot from the lower cupboard, and on turning around I caught my husband and my kids blushing and apparently behind my back she had looked at them pointing at my bottom and gesticulating that I was "bootylicious"!!! I thought at the time it was a compliment that was not quite successful (you know one of these things that are funny in your head but when you say them out loud they come out wrong) but now thinking back I find it just creepy! And invasive of boundaries again - my body is not public property to comment.

Singlenotsingle, I am always seeking for closure and I felt this situation was left hanging a bit, but you are right, no need for post-mortem.

Stressedout10 and werideatdawn, thank you, I like your athletic approach to the question!

IvanaPee you put the finger right on it - stepping back was so difficult because it had become more and more time consuming. When she was visiting was never for half and hour/one hour, it as for hours on end on a school night.

Drum2018 - Yes, absolutely, that messaging my husband behind my back as if we were in Victorian times really made me see red and think "enough" - after that I did block her on social media.

InsomniaTho let me tell you how much I admire you! I lost one full year at university for MH issues and when I did my PhD I was close to breaking point again. It's really hard to juggle it all as it is, and with the unexploded bomb of one's MH issues even more so. I am truly so pleased that you are managing it all! And a new relationship too!! That's great. Happiness is contagious. :)

NWQM, thank you - you are right, I guess I am not that great at letting go.

marvellousnightforamooncup, it's the not looking back that is very hard. I tend to have selective memory and remember only the good times!

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Cherrysoup · 04/03/2019 20:33

I think you’re entirely right. Turning up then messaging your DH was very poor of her. I couldn’t be friends with someone who did that.

SenoritaViva · 04/03/2019 20:35

Walk away.

I think because you see similarities to your own situation and think ‘this could be me’ and have cut her slack. If it’s not healthy for you then cut contact, it’s for the best.

Whilst you don’t go in to detail it’s lovely to hear/read about someone who has mental health / high functioning ‘issues’ (sorry wanted a better word) who is clearly doing brilliantly and forging a great family and support. I hope your volunteering involves sharing your good news story about living with ‘challenges’ and overcoming them.

Hope the above not insulting, I work with children and hope for the lovely children in my school who have a variance of some sort that they have people to inspire them...

VivaFrida · 04/03/2019 21:04

Thank you Cherrysoup :)

SenoritaViva, thank you so much for your kind words, and no, not insulting at all, you know when I was complimenting InsomniaTho I was also wondering if I came across as patronising/offensive because these 'issues' (as you say, for want of a better word) are so nuanced and it's difficult to express it in writing. "a variance of some sort" - I love that!!!

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VivaFrida · 04/03/2019 21:09

IvanaPee, "Don’t undo the good you’ve managed by going back to the same patterns." - I am rereading all the responses and that one strikes a chord. Thinking about patterns. Was I trying to rescue the 'old me' somehow? Without wanting to go too deep. Maybe I am seeing too much into this now.

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ChuckleBuckles · 05/03/2019 10:04

OP you will not regret walking away from this person. They have intruded on your family time and have attempted to use your own MH against you. think about what that means for a moment, most people feel vulnerable sharing any MH issues with others and she has used this knowledge to try to control you.

She has shown up at a time of stress for anyone (a big work deadline) and attempted to disrupt that deadline for you by showing up uninvited at your home, when that was not successful she messaged your DH in an attempt to bring you to heel, to force her way by implying that you were struggling. Luckily your DH was her match there.

She is controlling and manipulative, leave her in the past and move on.

IvanaPee · 05/03/2019 12:06

^Was I trying to rescue the 'old me' somehow? Without wanting to go too deep.
I think you probably were. Also; when you’ve been there you really do feel like you can drag someone out of it with you.

But YOU did the work to get YOU better. Nobody could have done it for you. Nobody can do it for her.

And remember you MUST take care of yourself for always, you know that! So if you’re expending your energy on this, you could suffer a setback. And you owe it to yourself not to let that happen.

You’ve been kind. A good friend. But you’ve been a crutch too.

You can’t pour from an empty cup. You have to keep yours full Flowers

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