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To think that this is probably not a wise name to call an internationally-exporting company?

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:04

A relative kindly bought my DS a plastic film tie-in Disney-Pixar cup from a major British supermarket chain, which he instantly loved. However, when washing it, I noticed the sticker on the underside containing the bar code, product details and the name of the company who made/imported it.

The company name is P-Slinky. According to its website, the 'Slinky' bit is a more recent addition (they make the famous stair-descending toys) and they were formerly just called P** Products.

The asterisked word is spelt out in full, in capitals, and is what I always understood to be a grossly offensive and pretty-much-anathema term for a gay man (sounds similar to a horses foot).

I assumed it was maybe an Asia-based company attempting onomatopoeia for a magic trick reveal or something without understanding the implications in colloquial English, but no, they're based in New Jersey, USA.

It's a huge, general company making all kinds of worldwide-market toys and similar products - it's not like it's a trendy company aimed at the gay community and trying to reclaim the term (as with Jonathan Ross's erstwhile house band). It looks like they chose the name both because of the rapid success of their company and the fact that they make a lot of foam-based toys(?!).

Does the word not have the same connotations in North America? Is it just me or is it not that different from calling your company N-word Products?

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JustHereForThePooStories · 27/02/2019 12:30

sounds similar to a horses foot

I can kind of get why you didn’t want to type “poof”, but surely “hoof” is fine?

HankNPat · 27/02/2019 12:31

Stealth, it's a puff of smoke you numpty Grin

downcasteyes · 27/02/2019 12:31

"I assumed it was maybe an Asia-based company attempting onomatopoeia for a magic trick reveal or something without understanding the implications in colloquial English, but no, they're based in New Jersey, USA."

This doesn't mean that it's offensive American slang for homosexual, though. There are so many differences between British and American slang. See this:

(NB I'm not sure Rachel Weisz is right about the definition of some of these, especially "Bob's Your Uncle"! But it's interesting to see how many common phrases just draw blank looks from the gorgeous Emma Stone!)

Anyway, the point is that if it's not US slang for homosexual, it's just one of those 'lost in translation' things and not a deliberately offensive name!

MegaBat · 27/02/2019 12:32

You're making me want to watch a spot of 'four poofs and a piano'

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:32

it’s a bit late to start calling for a name change since you’ve only just noticed

I'm not demanding a name change or calling for public burnings of the products and board members Grin

I'm just thinking that it wouldn't be my first choice of company names were I to start one - same as, if I were to start a business selling radios, I wouldn't call it 'The Tranny Company', even though this was once a very common everyday term for the device (abbreviation of 'transistor radio').

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JustHereForThePooStories · 27/02/2019 12:34

@HankNPat, I love your username. It was meant to be.

BlueJeansNiceTop · 27/02/2019 12:34

You know that in 2004 the company POOF merged with another, right?

ILoveMaxiBondi · 27/02/2019 12:35

I’m loving the confusion between pronunciation of puff and poof on this thread Grin

Puff is what you do when youre smoking a cigarette (having a puff) or breathing heavily (huffing and puffing) or disappearing in a puff of smoke. It doesn’t rhyme with hoof. It does rhyme with tough.

Poof is the offensive word used about gay men. It is also used in the same way “bang! and the dirt is gone” I saw used. “Poof! And she was gone” it rhymes with hoof but not tough.

BlueJeansNiceTop · 27/02/2019 12:35

Also, poof and hoof don't rhyme! Bizarre thread!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:35

I can kind of get why you didn’t want to type “poof”, but surely “hoof” is fine?

I wasn't pearl-clutching about the word 'hoof', I was more alluding to its spelling as I know it's pronounced in different ways depending on accent, much like the word 'poof', it seems.

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 27/02/2019 12:35

Yes they do! Grin

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:37

Also, poof and hoof don't rhyme! Bizarre thread!

See above Grin

I should have just typed 'poof', but I was under the misapprehension that it might be grossly offensive to some. Turns out I'm wrong - I still wouldn't go and shout it out in the High Street, though....

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 27/02/2019 12:37

I’ve definitely heard use of the word to describe things that are cushiony, but never written it down, so maybe that’s Pouffe rather than Poof. Something like, This chair’s really pouffy. Or, my hair’s gone all pouffy. In that context it would certainly make sense for a company solely making foam toys (as they did prior to the merger with Slinky). So maybe it’s an Americanisation of the word Pouffe?

StealthPolarBear · 27/02/2019 12:40

To me puff rhymes with tough
Poof rhymes with hoof and if basically just poo with an f on

AcrossthePond55 · 27/02/2019 12:43

The word 'poof' isn't used in the US as slang for gay.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:44

You know that in 2004 the company POOF merged with another, right?

yes, Slinky, which isn't (AFAIA) an offensive word to anybody. Why would that make it any different as they retained the word POOF, though?!

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Cornettoninja · 27/02/2019 12:45

On further procrastination it’s tickled me that fag doesn’t travel the other way across the Atlantic - maybe this is their revenge!

TheInvestigator · 27/02/2019 12:45

@BlueJeansNiceTop

Poof and hoof do rhyme.

But it doesn't rhyme with tough so no idea why the OP said that.

downcasteyes · 27/02/2019 12:48

" Slinky, which isn't (AFAIA) an offensive word to anybody."

According to Urban Dictionary, it is. (News to me). Mind you, according to Urban Dictionary virtually every word in the English language has some awful and derogatory slang meaning.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:49

The word 'poof' isn't used in the US as slang for gay.

No, I realise that, but they export to many countries including the UK. There are lots of company and brand names that don't travel very well internationally, one of the funniest being the Mitsubishi Pajero which, I believe, means, erm, 'an energetic self-pleasurer' in Spanish Grin Oddly enough, it seems that 'Nothing sucks like an Electrolux' was used deliberately, in full knowledge of what 'that sucks!' means in the US.

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:50

@downcasteyes

It IS?!?!?! Maybe I was focussing on the wrong part in my OP, then Shock Grin

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2019 12:52

basically just poo with an f on

I DO hope that's part of the actual authorised script they use when training new employees Grin Grin

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ShowMeTheKittens · 27/02/2019 12:56

is this a problem? Its just a silly company name?.

pigsDOfly · 27/02/2019 12:56

This thread is one of the funniest things I've read on mn for a while.

The OP trying to skirt around typing the word poof and trying to come up with rhymes so that we can work out what it is.

Took me a while tbh. Rhyming it with tough rather threw me.

museumum · 27/02/2019 13:00

I am totally and utterly bamboozled now as to how some people pronounce either 'horses foot' or 'gay man, can be pejorative'....
They do rhyme in my accent and although I am well travelled I just can't think how they might not....

ah well...