A bit of advice/ handhold. I know you're not doctors...

[honorariam]

Posting in AIBU because 1) I might be BU and 2) traffic.

DS has his MMR last Tuesday: no ill effects at all. Early hours of Friday morning he vomited several times. Fine the rest of the day but tired. Early hours of Sat morning he vomited 3 times. Rest of the day slightly high temp, slightly horrible nappies.

Sat afternoon, I go down with D&V...fucking terrible. Sunday morning DH gets the same. He's recovered, I've still got a temp and no appetite but feeling okay:

Now: DS vomited 3am this morning and about half hour ago. Bit clingy and sad this evening. Slightly high temp (37.7) and still not great nappies. Holding his head and crying. Have nurofened him and put him to bed.

All the advice on NHS says if they vomit for more than a couple of days get a GP appointment but MMR side effects also state they can feel a bit rough 7-11 days after jab...high temp, feeling unwell etc.

On the one hand, he's now been sick over a 5 day period and is off food so losing weight. On the other hand, if I call GP and say all this, he's going to want to see him and I don't really want to be responsible for the whole community going down with D&V.

Can I just have a little hand-hold/ sensible advice please? I'm working full time and knackered and think I might be worrying unnecessarily or on the other extreme, not enough!

Are you able to get a telephone appointment at your GP? At least then you'd have the reassurance. Or you could call 111.

Telephone consultation with your Doctors? Then if they want to see you and think he may be contagious they can put him in a separate waiting area (my doctors does this, when my DD had chicken pox that were thought to be infected I rang them and they wanted to see her so we went in through the staff entrance and put in a spare office until our appointment).

But do you really think I need to contact the GP? Doesn't it make more sense that it's a bit of a reaction to the MMR/ getting over the bug we've all had?

He's 15months old btw. Still breastfeeding.

He's 15 months. Don't mess about and take a chance. At least give the Drs a call tomorrow and explain the situation. They can decide if he needs to be seen.

Sounds like he's had his MMR and a bug, so his immune system has taken a real hit.

Lots of fluids, paracetamol and see your GP if he's no better in a few days. The Nurofen won't be helping his stomach after a bug either .... it must be taken with food. beta.nhs.uk/medicines/ibuprofen-for-children/

Didn't know that about Nurofen: will switch to calpol if he needs it.

Okay; will call GP in the morning if he still seems under the weather. He's had a lovely day today running around the garden so I'm sure it's nothing serious but better safe than sorry.

Poor little thing!

Given that you’ve all had D&V I don’t think the MMR has much, if anything to do with it.

His temperature isn’t terribly high, I’d give paracetamol rather than ibuprofen as it won’t be helping his upset tummy.

Don’t worry too much about food, as long as he’s taking fluids. And breast milk is food as well anyway.

I’d advised fluids, paracetamol and time. Be vigilant with your hand hygiene (all of you) and see the GP if he deteriorates. I wouldn’t rush down there yet.

Any ways to get his immune system back on track? I thought about probiotics...something to aid his digestive system/ gut.

Thanks @Sidge. This is what I'm thinking. Our GP has a habit of asking to see babies/ toddlers to play it safe so I'm almost 100% sure he'd ask to see him and I don't want to infect anyone else. Even with a separate waiting area, I'd still have to touch door handles etc and I'm not 100% convinced that I'm not still infectious to the weak/ elderly.

I would definitely ask for a telephone appointment with the Drs. If they think you need to go in and you might be contagious they’ll put you in a sep room to wait (I had this when my little boy had chicken pox). But they’ll probably be happy to discuss on phone.

Sounds like bad timing to catch a tummy bug after jabs but it probably more the bug than jabs. My little one had a tummy bug a bit younger than that and I was really worried about how long the runny poops were going on/him not eating. I spoke to the Drs on the phone a few times - they weren’t really worried at all about him not eating, just to keep an eye on drinking and any signs of dehydration in particular. It’s a rotten thing to go through - hope you are all fully recovered soon!

I’d phone the GP and let them decide whether you go in or have a telephone consultation.

There is a bug going about that seems to have children intermittently vomiting over the course of a week or two and it’s very unlikely to be caused by the MMR but always best to get it checked. I use Bio-Kult on the kids when they’re chucking up/can’t get off the loo but I don’t know if it actually works or if it’s just a placebo for me!

Thanks all! My default mode is total panic when it comes to DS and I have to be quite strict with myself not to catastrophise when he's poorly so I appreciate the input.

This bug has been grim...I've never felt so ill in my life and my DH was reduced to a pathetic wreck of a man who, whilst simultaneously vomiting and shitting, fell off the toilet and crapped on the bath mat. That's been the only comic relief of the past week.

I wouldn’t be worried, sometimes symptoms of bugs can come and go. I would be reassured that you got the bug- it obviously isn’t related to the MMR.

Sorry you’ve all been poorly. We all had D&V recently and I shat myself which has never happened to me before. Anyways! I seem to remember my friends son having a bug like this that seemed to go on, and gp said it’s common for small kids to develop a kind of temporary lactose intolerance after a vomiting bug, due to way gut flora is affected. If I remember, she was to avoid bf for a couple of days to let his gut rest and he stopped puking. But obviously see what gp says before taking any steps like that.

The crying would have had me calling 111 straight away. Dehydration can cause headaches and it’s dangerous for babies. I doubt it’s from the MMR - it’s more likely the vomiting bug. If the adults have been really ill then the little one must have felt even worse. Especially if he’s felt unwell for five days. You can’t be too careful with such a small child.

@VelvetPineapple I think it's v unlikely that he's too dehydrated. He's breastfed a lot tonight and has drank water throughout the day with only one incident of sickness. He may have a headache though, you're right.

Omg @Merename dreadful, isn't it! At least I've got a funny story to embarrass DH with for a while!

Keep breastfeeding as much as he likes. Don't worry about probiotics or anything extra. Breast milk will be sustaining him enough for now.
Poor baby though