Drugs at work.

[thinking54]

If you found out someone you worked with was doing drugs at work (mdma) would you tell the boss?

1. It's a manual job and involves going into peoples homes (where the drugs are being taken!)
2. The person in question is drug driving a company van.
3. He is married and has children. His wife has no idea
4. He is in thousands of pounds worth of debt due to drug use - again his wife has no idea.
5. He needs help. Desperately
6. The boss of the company is going on holiday next week leaving this person in charge.

You should tell the wife. I would want to know.

The debt will also effect her.

MDMA isn't the kind of drug you can take while doing a job, I think someone is telling porkies.

@Smoggle that's what I thought, but the OP said he's admitted it.

Speak up to management. He is a danger to himself and others. Almost all companies have a no drugs at work policy. Even worse that he's working with the public, and shocking that some would ignore it.

@DelphiniumBlue dh is putting 2 and 2 together regarding where he got the mdma from.

The coke one is nothing to do with the apprentice.

But dh sometimes has the apprentice working with him. The apprentice is 18/19 and is one for coming to work on a Monday morning telling dh what he's been up to at the weekend thinking he's 'cool'. He told dh last week he did MDMA at the weekend at party and how off his face he was. Dh just told him he's an idiot for taking that stuff.

Dh isn't working with the apprentice this week but the apprentice is working with the man in question and spent yesterday with him.

The apprentice isn't a proper drug dealer. He's just a kid. Dh thinks if anything he still had some left from the weekend.

Dh isn't going to bring the apprentice into it when he tells the boss.

It's all just ridiculous and I feel sorry for the boss. He's such a lovely guy, very fair and very family oriented. Dh just doesn't want this to affect his business in anyway so he's telling him which I know is the right thing to do too.

A lot of cross posting here.

Ok, so Mate has admitted it, DH is going to make a disclosure. As is right, I think, but have you prepared for the backlash, which will inevitably happen?

There will be village gossip
DH & mate are likely to fall out
Mate is likely to lose his job
Supplying apprentice is likely to lose his job too
Mate and wife possibly could split
House could be lost
Childrens relationships impacted

As posters will say, none of this is your fault, but some of it will land on your doorstep, and you need to prepare for the backlash.

@Smoggle I honestly thought this too. But it's true. It's been admitted. I've never taken drugs so don't have a clue on how it can affect you. Dh asked him how he can take that stuff at work and he said 'just can, my body is used to it mate'

Maybe affect him differently as his body is so used to taking it? And different drugs? And he drinks a lot too.

@PlainSpeakingStraightTalking exactly!!! I know this. Every point you mention we have discussed. Me and dh have barely slept talking about how this can affect everyone and us!

Whatever dh does, it's going to make him (and me) feel crap. There's no easy answer. It's crap.

Like I said, I saw this wife this morning and could barely look her in the eye when she spoke to me.

But then dh boss is our friend too. Not just a boss. He's been there for us massively in our times of need.

I don't know

My guess would be he's not over his cocaine habit. It seems unlikely he had a huge habit and then just switched over to MDMA which isn't known for being a daytime/worky type drug.

I wouldn't get too involved. His wife might know already, or if she's horrified, blame others. Just stay in the background. It's not for you to sort his life out.

MDMA isn't the kind of drug you can take while doing a job, I think someone is telling porkies

Quite.

Why on earth would he be taking that at work?

Is he drinking during the day? Taking coke? All seems very odd.

Very difficult - but consider if he's driving under the influence of drink/drugs - kills a person, or people - how will you and DH feel then?
He, not anyone else, has put his relationship, home, employment, health, friendships in jeopardy.
Feel very sorry for his wife - I believe she has a right to know - especially if there's a possibility that she and her children may lose their home.
He also needs help - if he's willing.

yes you have to do something because hes driving if he killed someone you would never forgive yourself

@PalmTree101 he's taken it once at work. Almost certainly because the young apprentice he was working with yesterday had some left on him from the weekend!

He probably does to coke at work. It wouldn't surprise me now. He's never been caught.

But yesterday he was caught doing MDMA at work by another colleague who unexpectedly turned up at the job to collect something. The young apprentice was also on the job somewhere but no where to be seen. It was late at the end of the day. Not like 10 in the morning.
Everyone else on the site had left. He was sat in his van.

No he doesn't drink at work. He does drink though. In fact me and dh have suspected he had a drink problem before. Never suspected drugs though.

When the man was crying, admitting to DH in the phone, really a conversation between him and DH should happen before going to the boss, once the bloke had calmed down.

If he's thousands of pounds in debt and doing drugs on the job, it's only a matter of time before this box of snakes opens for him.

I'd talk to him and say, I can't know that you're doing this on the job, without telling the boss, because a) you're driving high b) boss is a good friend c) you're in a crisis mate - you've got to stop this.

Again with the debt - it can't go on, you need to tell your wife. It's not fair.

Ultimately he needs help. He's spiralling out of control.

@Otterseatpuffinsdontthey thank you, that is the way we are looking at it.

I believe the wife must suspect something. She may already know some of it. But she certainly doesn't know the full extent of it.

Him and his boss are also very good friends. The boss is a friend before being a boss. And hopefully this may lead to him getting some help.

I don't know. But neither me or dh can carry this around with us knowing he is drug driving. The only image I have in my head is him causing an accident. We just can't do it.

Being blatantly honest with you. Yes he does need help but he isn’t likely to accept or search for it all the time people are enabling him by keeping quiet. He’s moved from one drug to another and his wife isn’t aware so the person best placed to support him and help him isn’t even aware there is a problem. She is going to feel very betrayed and lied to when she does find out, whether this ends their Marriage is only for them to decide, but for me it would cause a massive loss of trust.

Yes he does stand to lose his job and his marriage but honestly leaving him to continue will do more damage long term

Another angle then, if he and the boss are good friends, then he's really just taking advantage. Taking drugs during his paid employment time must impact on his work. A small company, I believe you said 6 people, where a third of the workforce aren't doing what they're get paid to do (including the apprentice here) - will impact on all their work colleagues. So, not just their jobs at risk.

@thinking54 Your 9:40 post could be highly outing, would ask for it to be removed really.

@Otterseatpuffinsdontthey completely. Drugs have taken over his life. His work, his friends don't matter anymore.

He's said he can't do drugs at home. So work is obviously the place he has to do them.

I'm surprised he's got away with it for so long.

4 is possibly a work concern if the man has the opportunity to defraud customers or the company because of his debt. It wouldn't be the first time.

E.g. 'Oh, can you pay the deposit in cash now?' etc...

I'm sorry that you're burdened with this information, but it's not your place to tell the people around him. I honestly can see your side of it but the repercussions for you both could possibly be unpleasant, even though you're doing what you think is best.

I think you have to tell the boss.

It sounds like a very dangerous situation and like the guy is spiraling out of control.