I'm worried, What would you do...

[Nononoandno]

My son is 15 I'm a single mum, he has little contact with his father although they do have an "ok" relatiinship. My son has been low, really argumentative, tired.... the usual teen stuff I suppose.
But last Friday he came home drunk and he told me he had been drinking.... he told me two ciders.... I didn't tell him off because he has told me the truth. Tonight he has come home with really large pupils and looking really drunk...,. I'm worried my coolness last week (he is 15 and I was drinking at 14) has given him the green light to do this every Friday .... what should I do... ground him..... won't that just make him rebel and do even more.... I seem to have lost my way in knowing how to handle this ..,, it's taken me by surprise a bit and wasn't prepared for seeing my boy properly drunk and swaying 😕😒

Amphetamines don't cause constricted pupils , they dilate them. Smack based drugs constrict pupils.
And I had a look re alcohol and yes, PP are correct it can cause dilation but they'll still constrict with light. With drugs the pupil will be very slow to constrict if at all.

Thanks everyone, I've text his dad, I called nhs direct... pupils take longer to shrink when drinking and it was a dull room but sort of under a dull light when I noticed fed earlier..I've since been back in his room lifted his eye lid and shone my phone light on eye and it shrunk straight away... I feel happier that just alcohol now... I would be surprised if he did ever take stings as he gets really angry about drug dealers and drugs in general... refers to idiots and losers etc.... so I will keep an eyd on things.... strong words tomorrow and consequences if it happens again ..... amazing drugs test will be bought and stashed for future suspicions. Thanks all.... I hope the bugger had one hell of a hangover when he wakes up! Maths tutor at 10am for him ouch!!

Depends on the stimulant drug taken but I would be looking at other things first over pupils.

MDMA can cause dilated pupils but you would also see other symptoms and they wouldn't just go to sleep on that.

Honestly, the OPs son simply sounds drunk. He doesn't need a drug test.

@CommanderDaisy

It depends on the amount of alcohol consumed. Pupils can be slow to react to light if a large amount has been consumed and can be quite sluggish.
Pupil size isn't really something we rely on for drug use because it's so variable. It certainly isn't something that can be reliably used to rule in/rule out specific drug use. We assess it but it forms a very small part of our clinical picture.

Your way to chilled about your 15yr old boozing. He is underage ffs.

My mum would of sent me straight back to her native country had I been boozing at 15.. Its not something you can excuse either.

Some peoples children.

We are encouraged to safeguard all incidents of underage drinking we attend regardless of the circumstances. Often, it's normal teenage behaviour, pushing the boundaries etc that the parents should deal with. But sometimes it highlights a very vulnerable child.

Ok firstly deep breath and stay calm. I don’t think it actually matters too much whether it was drink .or drugs. He was off his head on something and yes that warrants a discussion tomorrow. However, I was a single parent to two kids. One touched nothing, never even a sip of alcohol. The other, I think it was 2 or 3 times I got called to A&E because she was so drunk someone called an ambulance! She’s fine now. Some kids gets more into these things than others. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Just be loving and supportive. Tell him he frightened you with the state he was in, he will probably feel really bad for that. Talk first, see what he says, and decide from there what you want to do about it.

Thanks everyone, the reason I was cool last week was that he came home upset, one of his friends had got really drunk and needed taking home so while my son was calling the friends mum another friends was arguing and with him worried they would get into trouble etc.... my son walked in upset and worried and wanted to talk to me.... Hense me calming him down telling him he had done the right thing in calling the parent and getting his friend home... I did have words with him the day after and told him not to do it again.... obviously this time there will be consequences. I'm hoping him feeling rough today and having a 2 hour maths tutor at 10am teaches him a huge lesson. He doesn't have access to cash unless I give him it out of his bank acc so not more money for pizza with his friends as clearly that's not what he's spending it on.

Until two weeks ago he hardly went out and was on ps4 in his room arguing with his friends... I was relieved he was going out having social face to face interaction with his friends. 😒

Alcohol does give you dilated pupils... my husband is a mental health nurse trust me he knows about drugs and alcohol!
Weed can also give you dilated pupils... its mostly only opiates that dont

Op I do think you are going to have to come down a little bit harder on this. I think try and get to the bottom of why he is so low, but make it clear this is not okay behaviour.

Update....
He apologised this morning, before I even had chance to talk about risks and consequences, he said he's not doing it again, think it's shocked him that he passed out. I have had serious words today told him he's not out next Friday and if it happens again then phone, iPad, Xbox all go for at least two weeks. He then helped me with chores from 8am (without whinging) and was ready for maths tutor at 10 (although he did go to the toilet 3 times cos he thought he was going to be sick but his stomach was empty) he did look a bit peeky and he felt physically poorly all morning and he left his breakfast. Hopefully that will be the end of it for a while.