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To think that there's no way back from this?

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NameChange112112321 · 15/02/2019 10:08

I'm really sorry this is so long but I have PTSD, anxiety & depression and sometimes really struggle for perspective so didn't want to drip feed.

I'm a single mum, have been since my DD was 2 and she's now 10. I've been single most of that time aside from two short relationships. For the last 16 months I've been in a relationship with a lovely guy. When we met he had only recently moved out from the former marital home, but the relationship had been over for ages, divorce went through shortly after, etc. He has two kids 8 & 12.

When we first started dating he said he didn't want the kids to know right away as they were struggling with the divorce, I totally understood and know you shouldn't rush these things so was fine. After we'd been together for 10 months we had a row about the fact that he still hadn't told them - I feel very much that if you want to build a future with someone with kids (who wants you involved with their kids) your actual relationship doesn't begin till that integration starts. I know from siblings and friends who have done it how hard it can be. We agreed that he could take the summer to tell them, and during the same conversation he asked if we (DD and I) would move to his village (an hour away) this upcoming summer so we could all live together.

The timing of moving in together in the summer is important because (a) it would give his kids a year to get used to the idea and (b) we would need to be settled by the time we submit DD's secondary school applications in October. I found a really great school in his area and we agreed that we'd move into catchment, I sorted this with DD's dad, started planning, learning about the local area, etc.

Except he didn't tell the kids over the summer. He put it off and put it off and eventually told them over Christmas break. They didn't seem phased by it but didn't ask many questions. The other week he brought up the idea of us all meeting up and they kicked off. He's completely thrown by this and is a total wreck about it. He's worried he's 'scarring them for life', that they'll hate him - he's majorly catastrophising. We had a chat about it and in the end I said I thought we should take living together off the table. There is no way I would want DD moving in with someone they only met 6 months before and it sounded like this was going to be a difficult situation if they were pushing back so much.

While I know this was the right thing to do (and I was essentially only saying it so he didn't have to) I'm heartbroken. For the last 8 months DD and I have been planning and thought we had a future plan and it's been completely derailed. We now aren't sure where DD will go to Secondary, everything is up in the air again ,and I feel like all the planning was a total waste.

He seems that he thinks we should just go back to the way things were - seeing each other 1 night a week and a day or so every other weekend (he usually ends up agreeing to do something with his kids even on his off weekends). When he's with his kids he doesn't take my calls, he only calls me when he's sure they're asleep or when he pops to the shops, he only texts when they're doing something, I feel like I'm having an affair sometimes. (He's definitely divorced and I'm positive there is no one else before anyone jumps on it!)

He's not the easiest to talk to right now but I just don't know how to move forward. There's no point in doing the expense and hassle of moving if it's just DD and I, and once she gets into a local (to us now) Secondary I won't move her. He's also made it clear that he won't move to our village as he wants to stay local to his kids.

I've been a mug haven't I? I feel like the relationship I've been promised is gone. There's no way to really make this work going forwards is there?

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ilovemylurcher · 15/02/2019 10:16

I would still move in with him.
His kids will grow up, and if they feel that they have ruined their DF's relationship, that will scar them, not the fact that he moves in with you now.
They will want him to be happy, even if they take time to adjust to it and can't see it now. (I speak as the DD of divorced parents).
It's difficult but I'm sure you can make it work (it sounds like everything else is great).
Good luck

hellsbellsmelons · 15/02/2019 10:40

I don't think this is really going anywhere.
A break from each other might help in this situation.
He's not doing anything he said he would.
He's always delaying things.
You don't feel right about it now.
Don't move your DC without a completely stable home environment.
You need to know this is going to work. Don't go in blind.
I'd stay where you are. Plan on her secondary school being where you are now.
But I'd honestly take a step back.

toriatoriatoria · 15/02/2019 11:14

I don't think this is going anywhere. Stay making your own plans, especially regarding your daughter's school.
He wants to have his cake and eat it...see you when it's convenient for him and have nothing to do with you when it's inconvenient.

Confusedbeetle · 15/02/2019 11:23

He is not ready to commit fully to you. Either accept what he has on offer or move on. You could move to a house in his village but keep your own independence if he is worth it.

user1494055864 · 15/02/2019 11:28

It sounds like he's really not interested in committing to you. Stay where you are.

Apple103 · 15/02/2019 11:32

Yanbu everything seems to be on his terms. Tbh I wouldn't have made any sorts of plans until he had told his DC. Seems like hes very much focused on them right now which is fine as they are getting used to the new situation.
However as they are already kicking off and him backtracking, seems just too much of a hassle to deal with.

KC225 · 15/02/2019 11:53

Did they really kick off or did he get cold feet?

FlagFish · 15/02/2019 12:04

Oh OP that is so tricky. If only you had another year to take things slowly and consider everyone’s feelings, but due to the timing of your DD’s secondary school application I can see that isn’t an option.

I don’t think you’ve been a mug - he sounds well intentioned but a bit of a wuss.

I can see that after planning to move in together in a few months, going back to meeting up once or twice a week seems like a massive step backwards.

I think maybe this one is just a “right guy, wrong time” thing. You met him a bit too early after his marriage breakup.

Wedgiecar58 · 15/02/2019 14:03

He doesn't want to upset his children, which is understandable, but he can't bury his head and think the problem will go away, not if he wants to maintain his relationship with you.

You need to ascertain how serious he is about building a lift together with you. He is asking pretty big commitments from you (ie moving) but not doing making any changes to his own life.

He needs to grow a pair and face this issue, not keep ignoring/putting it off.

I wouldn't rule out this relationship, but he is going to have to put on his big boy pants and start being proactive about this.

NameChange112112321 · 15/02/2019 21:52

Thanks everyone, that's really helpful. It's nice to know that my perception is on the right track.

@flagfish I think you perfectly captured where my head is - more time would be great but it's sadly not what we have. He is a really lovely guy, but timing isn't necessarily right.

I'm going to have a chat with him this weekend to try and wrap my head around how he sees it all playing out and compare that to what I do and don't want. Then I guess we'll see where that leaves us.

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bluebell34567 · 15/02/2019 22:34

his priority is his kids not his own future and he is a wuss.
i dont think he will change and with the decisions you making to stay where you are, it doesnt seem your relationship can move forward.
if you want, keep him as a friend and move on.

MakeTheM0stofEveryDay · 16/02/2019 11:45

He had only just moved out of marital home. It sounds like it was too soon to be living together. Why can't you live separately and still see each other ?

NameChange112112321 · 16/02/2019 17:16

@makethem0st We would be living together 2 years after getting together, so I didn't think that was too soon.

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 16/02/2019 17:21

Put your DD first and enrol her in the school she wants . When that’s sorted you can then think if what we offers will work . He sounds like he has major and Seemingly irrational issues . Pull back and bit and ensure your DD has her security and path forward as priority ?

MumW · 16/02/2019 17:52

Put your DD first and enrol her in the school she wants .
^This

At the moment he is prioritising his DC - which is what he should do - however, it is at the expense of your relationship and your DD.

He's had 2 years to prepare his DC to your existence yet he's put it off and put it off.
He's asking you to move to his village

  • his DC's best interest
  • moves you from your social circle and DD away from her Dad
  • time critical for your DD but you've prepared and it would work but has to happen now - he's reneged on his side of the bargain doesn't give a monkey's about you DD

He is not prepared to blend your families so I see this as crunch time, you and your DD are now very invested in this relationship but, so far, he hasn't given anything.

The fact he procrastinated about telling his children, knowing that you had to make a time critical decision for your DD would almost certainly be a deal breaker for me.
I can't see any way back but only you can decide if there is anything he can do to prove his commitment and make all the upheaval/cost of a move worthwhile.

Your overwhelming priority here is to stabilise the situation for your DD. Transition to secondary school is hard enough without all the uncertainty.

I don't think you've been a mug but you have shown unbelievable patience. You can't go on running around him on his terms any longer.

Good luck
Flowers

AyoadesChinDimple · 16/02/2019 18:26

Unfortunate I think his guilt about divorcing his ex and hurting his kids will continue to dictate his behaviour and i cant see him making any more of an effort to move forward with you and your DD.
I'd focus on getting her into the right school and making sure you and she are settled. If he is serious about a life with you and your DD then it is up to him to make a big effort to show you that he is.
It may take him years to do so, so I'd really question whether you are up for waiting for him.
I'm sorry, it's a shite situation as I'm sure he's a decent man, but it may just be the wrong time for him.

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