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Job Opportunities for the young UK

63 replies

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 16:17

I am worried about the UK economy and job opportunities due to the current political situation.

Are other people worried too? If so what could resolve matters?

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Littlespace · 10/02/2019 18:19

That would be pretty depressing for a qualified physicist. It would be nice for them to have the present range of opportunities.

It feels like we are pulling up the ladder behind us.

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ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 18:22

I’m pretty sure a qualified physicist will have no problem getting a job. STEM will be fine no matter what.

DippyAvocado · 10/02/2019 18:23

Fruit picking has always been done by itinerant workers. It is currently done by migrant workers because it is low-paid and those who do it don't mind doing seasonal work for a pittance and spend the summer season living in a caravan or over-crowded house. It's not a model I particularly approve of and it is certainly not a long-term career option for young people.

The argument that fruit farmers should pay more to attract UK nationals doesn't wash because it would make them uncompetitive compared to fruit producers in other countries and they would probably just go out of business.

Care work should undoubtedly be paid more but that will only come about by either charging private patients more or being heavily subsidised by the government.

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 18:24

One child sorted then.

I find this chart depressing, like a self inflicted wound.

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YahBasic · 10/02/2019 18:46

I also graduated into a recession, and was aware that it would be unlikely to walk into a job that I felt entitled to. I worked in a call centre for a year whilst I gained experience in other areas, moved abroad for work opportunities and paid for further study.

I would say that I started my career a couple of years after graduating, but those years were necessary for building resilience in the career I’m now in. I did an Arts degree but a fairly “useful” one.

Things have been tough for young people for a number of years now.

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 18:52

I do have one child who is working in a touristy job as that is what she could get. She is really enjoying it and at least it is work experience. So she is plotting a similar zig zaggy course to where she might end up. Or not as the case might be.

I just feel that it is our moral duty as parents and grandparents or family members to make sure that things are not economically bad for them if it can be avoided. I think we can avoid it!

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Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:00

I'm much more worried about this child in particular. She is a hard worker but is not in any sort of shortage area whereas the others will be. So keep the tips coming.

And please think about what you can do as an individual to help ameliorate any hardship or prevent the car crash. Or help someone onto the job ladder.

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ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:12

Touristy can mean all sorts of things - hospitality in hotels/high end resorts? Theme Park Worker? Tour Guide? “Red Coat”? Ski instructor?

We need more of a clue before we can offer helpful advice. My friend is a travel and tourism lecturer so I could ask her.

MissCharleyP · 10/02/2019 19:12

No advice as such OP, but I too am worried. One DN is training to be a teacher - I'm thinking she will be OK. The other has around 15 years before she needs to be thinking about work. I'm worried about me and people in the same boat; no particular, specific qualifications, no idea what I'd do if I lost my job. I live in a high unemployment area, mostly care work and retail (all pretty much zero hours - and loads of shops are closing and not being replaced). I hate office work with the presenteeism culture and sat staring at a screen while sitting in dead silence. I really wish I'd trained as something specific (nail tech/beautician). I'd love to do an apprenticeship but as I have a Diploma from the OU, I know I'll find it difficult and re-training just doesn't seem to be an option for a lot of adults. Night schools closed round here over ten years ago, its hard to even find places where you can learn a language/instrument/artistic skill for fun now.

ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:15

You don’t fancy book-keeping/accounting do you @MissCharleyP? You could set up self employed?

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:17

Seaside tourism attraction - all sorts of stuff. Fluent in German. Good at maths. Hard working but not sure what to do next.

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TaimaandRanyasBestFriend · 10/02/2019 19:20

I'm not particularly bothered, so much other stuff to worry about.

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:20

By the way I have one in teaching and this is a shortage area but very stressful / long hours. So if you need any tips for getting into teaching fire away.

Would book keeping be an option for my dd?

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Fleetwoodsnack · 10/02/2019 19:20

Were in a shit situation but I graduated just after the financial crash and survived. Many of my peers are in crap jobs when they would have been high fliers before. But....we'll and they'll be ok. My parents generation survived 17% interest rates and endowment mortgages and the Tories killing all of our industry (Scotland).

Itll be ok.

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:22

But it is all self inflicted. We don't have to just survive!!!!!!!

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ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:26

Only if she wants to do it @littlespace. What qualifications does she have?

MissCharleyP · 10/02/2019 19:27

ShadyLady53 Its not something I've ever thought of, I always struggled with maths at school. However, I would be/am willing to consider any and all options. My DPs ran a business that they would have let me take over and pay rent to them until I made enough to buy it, but it was horrendous long hours (newsagent) with not really much reward. I couldn't think of what else I'd have been able to do with the premises. They did manage to make a living, but partly because there was a flat above that they rented out (they paid off their mortgage in the 1990s - we lived in a separate house) and did ridiculous hours themselves. I didn't want to be tied to somewhere 24/7 and not have any holidays (they didn't go away, even for a weekend for the 20 years or so that they owned it). My DM also worked in another job as well, which provided extra income.

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:29

11 GCSE's - very good all A's A stars
3 A Levels - A in Maths
She is hopefully doing a fluency exam in German soon.

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ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:33

@Littlespace I’d tell her to look at training as an accountant (a firm May sponsor her) or going into German translation for a major company. My friend did well as a Spanish translator for BT but left after the Brexit vote because she’s Spanish!

ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:38

@CharleyP My friend went to a major city for a week and did a few beauty courses back to back, nails was 2 days. spray tan half a day, massage a few more. You could set up as a mobile beauty therapist if you could fund training and equipment. Microblading is very popular now.

My friend does packages for weddings, proms etc and brings a fair bit in.

Another bought a hair salon and manages it. She’s loaded!

Fleetwoodsnack · 10/02/2019 19:43

It is and it's not. I certainly didn't vote for it.

That said, the financial crash was self inflicted too. Things go wrong, or don't go as we want. Worrying doesn't change it.

SilverySurfer · 10/02/2019 19:52

Just as well you don't live in Spain where youth unemployment is nearly 35% as opposed to 11% in the UK..

Littlespace · 10/02/2019 19:54

If worrying could change things I would have changed the world by now!

Thanks for that tip ShadyLady53 I have e mailed it to her.

I don't believe in apathy and I think that all the mothers and grandmothers in the land COULD change this mess if they decided to act.

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ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 19:58

@Littlespace I’m sorry but I disagree. I wanted to remain but we can’t ignore a democratic vote in my opinion. There shouldn’t have been a referendum in the first place as problems like the NI ROI border, what might happen if Scotland or Wales or NI voted differently to England, the fact we’d have no laws governing our country etc could have easily been pre-empted. But it’s too late now. I don’t want a civil war. As others have said, we’ve been through hard times before. We’ll get through this too.

ShadyLady53 · 10/02/2019 20:02

And actually economically and politically things aren’t that great in Europe at the moment anyway. France, Germany and Spain are having a hard time especially. We’d be dragged into that anyway!