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AIBU taking DSD in toilets with me?

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Reallyevilmuffin · 09/02/2019 01:57

To make this clear from the start I am step DAD. I am prepared to get flamed here too.

DSD 7 and I do a lot together as DP often has the much younger children and doesn't drive, so we go a lot of places together and daytrips. She has a big phobia of new toilets, not without reason too.

She has a habit of locking herself in cubicles, which has happened 2 times when she has gone alone. She is not very strong, nor practically minded and a little immature. Both times where she got trapped and panicked it was because she was pulling and trying to move the slider lock, rather than just moving left to right.

Rescues involved one climbing over the stalls experience in the ladies (she had been gone a while with me outside, the women were understanding and heard her screaming) and Starbucks having to use their unlocker thing.

Not locking the door is not an option as she is very private and has to have it closed, or have me physically guard the door after a minutes reassurance.

She is getting better but if she has never been in them before she will want someone with her. Now I will gravitate to the changing room toilets or disabled if practical, but if these aren't options as they often aren't we are left with a pickle.

I then take her in the blokes with me if she is insisting, which I have never had any issue with. No one has ever given me a look, and apart from having to ensure a clean toilet it's never been an issue at any time that I have noticed.

However when I did this when out with friends on a daytrips they were shocked and thought I was going to warp her mind and harm her for life with penises being seen, and that I should go in the ladies with her instead. This view was repeated by quite a wide range of people when I voiced this is what I did on an article about a school moving to mixed gender toilets, and how these help people like me.

I don't think I have harmed her, and she only seems concerned about getting locked in. Indeed I don't know which toilets these people go in that seem to have penises waved about willy nilly, I can't think of a time other than with people blotto that any bloke has ever done anything other than get out of a toilet as fast as possible! I don't bother about covering her eyes or anything because there is never really anything to see IMO.

The arguement that technically nothing private happens outside a cubicle in a women's was not a bad one, but I have always felt the adult should be in the correct gender location at all times as a rule of thumb.

So am I damaging DSD? Would you do what I do currently? (We had conquered it until the most recent lock in over the autumn half term, getting there again)

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ChakiraChakra · 09/02/2019 08:37

My main concern would be how clean it is; I would use the disabled toilet, surely everywhere has disabled toilets now?

And that might be fine most of the time but there's always a chance that somebody genuinely disabled comes along needing to use the loo and it would be un-necessarily engaged. Given that disabilities can include an urgent need to go to the loo, this seems unnecessary unfair on people who already have enough problems going on. I have urgent bladder syndrome, not a disability in its own right, and when I was on one leg on crutches I needed to use the loo in a service station. All had to be planned in advance so that I hopefully didn't wet myself 😳 I crutched for bloody miles to the disabled loo, and when I got there my arms were shaky, my good leg weak and I was desperate... and the single cubicle was engaged 😳 it's given me a very healthy respect for not blocking disabled loos unnecessarily!

IJustLostTheGame · 09/02/2019 09:30

Yanbu.
I've entered into the ladies before and met with dads taking their daughters in. They always look a bit sheepish and say its cleaner than the mens.
It doesn't bother me at all.
When I was little my dad would take me into the mens. I wasn't scarred by it, although apparently I threw a tantrum once as only boys are allowed to use the urinal.

People have to pee. Whatever works.

Idonotlikeyoudonaldtrump · 09/02/2019 09:54

You’re doing the right thing. Dh takes dd in the men’s. I took ds in the ladies’.

Butteredghost · 10/02/2019 03:47

I think continue with what you are doing. As she gets older and gets over her phobia (it sounds like this is happening) it will cease to be an issue anyway.

I always see mums doing the same with young boys (including myself). There are always boys aged 7-8 in the swimming pool change rooms and women are getting completely naked in there. Seeing a man's back or a man walking out a stall is nothing really.

kateandme · 10/02/2019 04:38

you sound fantastic support to her.im sorry whatever happened to her has obviously been awful to make her have these fear.big hugs for that.
carry on.people who have issues with it have issues.
good on you.

Reallyevilmuffin · 11/02/2019 18:47

Haha she is very keen to try the urinals, I get asked about them frequently :p thanks all

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