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Loose dog

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Needlemaker · 07/02/2019 15:44

You dont let a stange german shephard into the school playground at pick up time?

Yes I know he shouldn't have been loose in the first place im in bits being loose is technically out of control and dangerous dog territory even though he's not got a mean hair in his body but he had been tied up to the railing outside the school secured by a collar, harness and leather lead and we have done this 2 or 3 times without incident at school and many other times before with no problem

Today however the idiot dog slips both collar and harness meaning he's loose in the school car park which is fenced off from the school playground till some utter moron decided to let him in the playground!

I know my dogs safe but they don't and they just let it loose on a load of kids who does that?

I'm drafting a letter of apology to school now and I won't be walking him at pick up ever again but when I find out which idiot let him through the gate WIBU to go neicular on them?

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BiteyShark · 07/02/2019 16:41

But the person who let the dog through has no responsibility for it. The OP does however and ultimately should something horrible have happened it would have been them held responsible.

Why the other person opened the gate no one knows. Perhaps they hadn't registered what was happening? We weren't there so only have the OPs description.

Blaming the other person is going to do what exactly? Nothing. Because ultimately the OP has responsibility and failed to secure him.

bluerody · 07/02/2019 16:41

When I was in primary school my dog once walked into assembly. My Mum had left him tied up outside (she worked with the school quite a lot so she was in the offices talking to people) but he slipped his lead and casually walked into assembly. I had to grab him and take him to the office like a naughty child 🤦‍♀️

adaline · 07/02/2019 16:42

but the reason he got into the playground is because someone let him. It's just semantics.

I disagree. There's two scenarios here:

1 - the dog is loose, someone opens the gate and actively lets the dog through (as in, notices the dog is coming, makes no attempt to stop it/close the gate).

2 - the dog is loose, someone opens the gate and the dog runs through too quickly to be stopped. The person in question is focusing on their child and not looking out for loose dogs running about.

The dog shouldn't have been loose in the first place. If it was tied up securely then it wouldn't have been able to get in the playground regardless of the gate being opened for it.

People are responsible for their own dogs. Dogs running off-lead without their owners are deemed out of control in law.

NameyMcNameChange1 · 07/02/2019 16:43

I bloody hate peoples who tie their dogs to the school gates, particularly large dogs who block the path. Meaning I have to wait with my dc until the bloody idiot moves their dog before I can get past to go home. Ds is autistic and no amount of me reassuring him will encourage him to go past. Just leave your dog at home on the school run, it’s so antisocial.

Booboostwo · 07/02/2019 16:45

If you saw your dog was loose why didn’t you recall him?

Yes, if I saw a loose dog I would not let him in a playground full of children but you set your dog and the children up to be let down by the idiot who opened the gate.

SoupDragon · 07/02/2019 16:46

People do realise that it is possible for there to be more than one person at fault in any given situation don't they? Ultimately th eblame lies with the OP but that doesn't mean no one else was an idiot.

BiteyShark · 07/02/2019 16:48

SoupDragon but if the dog had attacked anyone given the circumstances do you really think anyone other than the OP would he held accountable by law?

The OP is angry but by blaming the other person most people are going to think they are just deflecting to lesson their own blame.

adaline · 07/02/2019 16:49

Ultimately th eblame lies with the OP but that doesn't mean no one else was an idiot.

Sure, but ultimately if anything was to happen it wouldn't be anyone else's fault bar the OP. If that dog (God forbid) bit a child or ran into the road and caused an accident or got injured, OP would be liable for having her dog out of control.

percheron67 · 07/02/2019 16:51

"Idiot Dog"!!! More like an idiot owner!! Poor dog could have been killed on the road. There are some people who should not be able to have dogs (or children).

Bambamber · 07/02/2019 16:52

The person probably assumed the dog was fine around children otherwise it wouldn't be left unattended, tied to the railings at a school. But regardless, you still haven't said whether someone opened the gate to specifically let your dog in, or if they opened the gate to get in and your dog just walked through. If the dog was just walking through the person, may not have had the confidence to stop your dog, or even noticed your dog.

Either way, if they saw the dog was loose, they should have probably waited to open the gate until the dog wasn't near the gate. But to be honest I don't think it's great leaving a dog unattended tied to railings at school, especially when there's lots of people around. But would have, should have, could have.

Wolfiefan · 07/02/2019 16:58

They presumably knew the dog was yours and assumed you would be able to recall it straight to you rather than deliberately letting it through to enjoy eating children in the playground.
Hope you’re not going to leave your dog tied up tomorrow.

Janedoughnut · 07/02/2019 17:08

How exactly did the person let it through the gate? Did they open the gate to let it through or were they going through the gate themselves and the dog went with them?

If it's the former then it's a stupid thing to do but, if it's the second, then other that physically stopping the dog I don't see what else they could do.

hastingsmua1 · 07/02/2019 17:19

Jesus Christ. It’s 100% your fault and no one else’s. Stop trying to deflect blame on others.

Like it or not, German shepherds have a certain reputation and can look aggressive. I’m not surprised if the kids/staff/other parents were scared - and I also wouldn’t be surprised if the person who apparently ‘let him in’ was scared of the dog too. You have a massive dog inches away from you that’s stronger and faster than you - if this person was scared of it, how could they appropriately restrain it? The dog could have literally just barged it’s way in!

Also something that you’re missing the point of - the dog was excitedly trying to locate you, if you didn’t leave your dog abandoned on the street it would not have felt so desperate to break away and find you. And secondly, if your dog was well trained it should just stay where you left it and not excitedly bolt around everywhere because it slipped out of it’s restraints.

This is 100% down to poor dog training & care.

AuntieCJ · 07/02/2019 17:24

100% your fault. It was unsupervised. You should never leave a dog tied up outside a school. Incredibly irresponsible.

SileneOliveira · 07/02/2019 17:25

As a non-dog owner, dogs are not on my radar. I would not be thinking "oh, I better check before I open this gate that there isn't a dog behind me waiting to slip in". It just wouldn't register.

If it did register, I wouldn't open the gate. But I certainly wouldn't be grabbing its collar or trying to stop it getting in if it was already half way through the gate. That's how people get bitten.

MotorcycleMayhem · 07/02/2019 17:26

@percheron67 too far. As a dog owner and woman unable to have children.

PinkGin24 · 07/02/2019 17:54

@NameyMcNameChange1 how is it the dog owners fault that your child won't walk past their dog?

Different story if it is some vicious growling dog but just standing on the path and your child won't walk past well that isn't the dog owners issue.

Also it is not antisocial to take a dog on the school run, just because you and your child don't like dogs

NameyMcNameChange1 · 07/02/2019 21:14

pink it’s not so much the taking it on the school run, it’s the tying it to the school gates. We live in a village and there’s only pavement on one side of the road where the school is and massively busy road so really halve to stay on the pavement. A big lab tied to the railings standing sideways takes up the whole path. Other parents will budge it out the way but ds screams his head off if I try and do it and is liable to run into the road. If a dog walks past us it’s ok, ds just shuts his eyes and stands still until it’s gone past. But a great big dog just parked on the pavement is a massive pita. People do it with buggies too which is even more irritating because you can’t get past those at all.

Geminijes · 07/02/2019 21:19

SoupDragon

Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common.

llangennith · 07/02/2019 21:24

I am upset knowing a parent (not knowing my dogs temperament) let him into a primary school playground full of kids

Really? That's your issue? Take your dog out on a proper run and don't take it to school to be tied up on the railings. I have dogs but understand that this is not a sensible thing to do as lots of people, especially children, are scared of large dogs.

IWantChocolates · 07/02/2019 21:34

I'm not a dog owner so this might be a silly question, but is a dog supposed to be able to slip out of its collar and harness?

As someone not overly fond of dogs, I wouldn't attempt to stop one should it try to pass through a gate with me.

BiteyShark · 08/02/2019 05:23

IWantChocolates no they shouldn't be able to slip their collar or harness. This can happen on badly fitted or inappropriate for breed/size ones though.

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