Baby cookies!

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Sorry this doesn't belong here but I need to know of I'm panicking for nothing?
Took my DD 9 months out with a friend, her DD is 13 months we were giving them snacks but my DD was more interested in what my friends baby had, so my friend asked if she could have one so I said ok as I saw the pack was Ellas kitchen raisin and oat cookies so assumed it was fine for her. She really enjoyed it and so she gave her another. I was interested in what it was as she liked them so much so I read the back of the pack and in the ingredients list it says organic honey 7% and also says not suitable for under 12 months.

I read somewhere while ago that honey is really bad for babies and can make them seriously ill. Is my DD going to get ill from this? Is it just plain honey they can't have or does it include honey in recipes. I'm totally panicking now. They are only tiny thin cookies and she had 2 of them.

It's the botulism threat, I had a similar pnuc recently. Hang on, I'll link to my thread.

It will be unlikely that she will get ill but avoid honey from now on. Once she is 1 she will be ok to have honey.

Botulism is so incredibly rare, please don't panic. I accidentally gave my DS honey before 12 months too and could have kicked myself. I laugh looking back at how panicked I was!

Found it!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/childrens_health/3495638-Honey-in-babies

It's very rare to contract botulism. You aren't the first to do it accidentally & you won't be the last, try not to beat yourself up too much. They do similar bars for those under 1

I was so panicked (still am a bit because you can't tell if they've got infant botulism for 3-30 days after consumption of honey) but I think yours is even more unlikely because the product was cooked. Try not to stress. Keep an eye out for constipation (that's apparently the first sign) but it's very, very unlikely anything will happen. There were some very reassuring links on my thread. It's incredibly rare, even in babies that regularly have honey.

This should reassure you op. It's the most recent data I could find.

There were cases after that. I think I linked to it on a previous thread

www.gov.uk/government/publications/health-protection-report-volume-12-2018/hpr-volume-12-issue-6-news-16-february#two-recent-cases-of-infant-botulism-in-england only been 19 cases in the UK since 1978 so pretty rare

My now 14 month old accidentally ate biscuits that had a small amount of cooked honey in them over the course of a week. She's fine. I did avoid honey once I realised but I'm sure the chances of anything awful happening are pretty small.

I do believe you are panicking over nothing. I think there is the possibility of a bacteria in honey that could be harmful to small babies. These biscuits are likely to have a tu=iny amount and they are cooked. Am sure the company are just covering themselves as a legal requirement

Please just put it out of your head, I've been there worrying about things like this but honestly your baby will be fine.

Okay thank you everyone. I'll not be buying those cookies for her then. Glad I'm not the only one to panic about this sort of thing

Thank you demented I couldn't find that for looking

My daughter had botulism at 2 months old. I learned a lot about it during that time and after. Botulism is caused by a neurotoxin that lives in the dirt, just like tetanus. When the dirt is disturbed, up go the spores into the air. The two main culprits in the food study were corn syrup and honey. No one ever talks about corn syrup! We live in an agricultural area that is extremely dusty, and chances are it blew right in to the house. They can get botulism by just sucking on their fingers. It’s not about the food at all. I never gave my daughter honey or corn syrup. I think many SIDS cases are actually botulism. They never test for that. It takes two weeks to grow the culture to see if it’s really botulism. I took her to many doctors that said she was fine. As soon as I took her to the Children’s Hospital, they knew in seconds she had botulism. Now I tell every mom that if something is wrong, skip the pediatrician and go straight to the emergency room. She would have died if I had listened to the doctors. Botulism is greatly slowed down by infant probiotics and breastfeeding. You would hear a change in cry and less strong breastfeeding- like they are not as hungry. Botulism can kill in 24 hours. They have only had a cure since 2007. Only 200 doses of the antidote are made each year. Many thanks to the State of California’s Orphan Disease program that saved her life and so many others. We will always be so grateful.

Wow MissGreenie, that is a really informative post and I thank you for that. I had no idea about it being an airborne disease, or how quickly it can harm a baby. I've always been pretty chilled about my kids having honey, and I think I will continue to be, but I'm glad to now know what you've shared.