To believe in Guardian Angels, Inner Spirits etc?

[IDoBelieveInAngels]

I don't believe in ghosts, religion or anything like that but I was going through an extremely tough time once, circumstances were that I believed my DC would be better off with me not around, I vividly remember a beautiful vision of light talking to me. It wasn't a hallucination I knew it was a version of me in my head. I didn't hear voices, it was my voice as if I was talking to myself in my head but not the me I knew iykwim. It was intensely calming, telling what an amazing person I was etc. It freaked me out afterwards as I thought I really was nuts!

I think of it as my inner spirit or guardian angel type thing.

Since them I often get what I can only describe as whole body vibrations, like hairs standing on the back of the neck shivers down my body, not scary at all. I quite enjoy them. They come about when I realise something, like my truth kind of thing. I was told by a therapist once that I was an Empath so a highly sensitive person.

It's all very odd and I was a complete sceptic about this kind of stuff before I experienced it. Had a massive body vibration yesterday after I found that I was right about something highly emotive that I'd been told I was wrong about for years.

Am I a freak or what?

Yep a definite freak.

If it helps you, and you're not hurting anyone or yourself what harm is there in it?

Thanks Dinky!

Just wondering if I'm the only one in which case I better stay under my bridge.

People believe in all sorts of stuff and all kinds of god.

If it gives you some comfort then it serves a purpose.

If it helps you through difficult times, crack on.

For me, the issue is more with people who either prey on the vulnerable charging them ££££ to find their own spirit guides or guardian angels. or who tell people to shun conventional medicine for hippy dippy shit which doesn't work.

YANBU to believe whatever you like, but the mind is a powerful thing, and it's pretty normal for psychological states of mind to cause physical effects like the chills/shivers you describe (many people get this from a piece of beautiful music or nature etc). You might be a bit more prone to these things than some people, but it certainly doesn't make you a freak.

The 'talking vision of light' is more unusual, but it sounds as though you were in quite an extreme mental state at the time, so maybe not that surprising. People like to imagine these things are guardian angels etc - if it helps you, then there's no harm in thinking of it that way, I guess.

Maybe I did explain it properly, but it wasn't something with flappy wings floating around in my head, more a kind of inner being, inner soul like thing.

OK what about souls, do we have them or are our minds just a bundle of electrical impulses? Anyone up for a discussion?

Maybe I didnt explain it properly.

I'm not sure about there being a "being" as such, but I do think things have a way of working out for the best, so it can feel that way.

I went outside once in the storm to move are bins. As I stood looking where to move them, I felt something push me, like a hand on my back, push me forward. I stumbled forward, and felt something like down the back of my hair, then smash to the ground. It was roof tile that came off the house 3 doors up. If I hadn’t felt that push and moved 🤷🏻‍♀️

What was it? I have no idea. I have never believed in anything. But I felt that push from behind, as clearly as anyone stood behind me and putting their hand on me, and pushing me.

Meh, if it helps you, it doesn't matter whether it's a real thing or something conjured up by your subconscious.

But what won't help is seeking approval or interpretation of it - as that leaves you vulnerable to all sorts of charlatans and abusive personalities.

You are absolutely not being unreasonable, and yes, they do exist. People can deny it all they like, but where does our inner feeling or gut instinct come from?
You aren't a freak, but unenlightened people will tell you that you are (I'm prepared to be flamed for this, but I don't care).

I believe in the true self, the soul, spirit, life force, some words to describe the indescribable. The ego or character that we are is just that. The other is the real. If you aren't harming yourself or others then there's no problem as far as I can see.

No, we don't have souls. I've worked with people with dementia, epilepsy and TBI. It's amazing how easily and quickly parts of your personality, memory and intellect can be lost to brain damage. Everything that makes you you can be gone or irretrievably altered by a fall, dementia, brain tumour, blow to the head etc.

As for guardian angels, considering the immense suffering that goes on in this world and that for every near miss where someone reports their guardian angel saved them, there's far more people who died in a terrorist attack or on the roads, who starved to death, died of a heart attack or who were murdered. Where were their guardian angels or weren't they special enough to warrant one?

I don't just believe I've seen, well not me personally but told from someone who wouldn't make it up.
At the wake of my dads funeral. My sisters FIL was telling us while we sat around having a drink and chat that when the curtains had closed ready to through to the cremation part
He saw a white orb come up from the behind the Deacan and then just float away. It certainly gave me comfort knowing he was free and having the confirmation that there definitely is something afterwards.
Yes I've always believed, but believing is one thing seeing is another.

I've always believed in angels and ghosts etc. It's a lovely thing to believe in and seems perfectly possible as far as I'm concerned - and I appreciate that people may doubt these things but it seems terribly closed-minded to deny them when we know so little about the world.

@EnoughSnowAlready@.
Because it's their time to go.
For those interested in the topic, read Proof of heaven, or Diana Cooper (any of hers really)

For me I view a (my) soul as the innermost essence of me that is an eternal part of me that goes beyond time and space. It is the unique and wonderfully made part of me that makes me different to you and everyone else.

Its also why I think that loving someone is never wasted. Because love is eternal. It goes beyond here and now, beyond what we can see, its spiritual and not physical.

Many people and many different cultures over many different years have and do acknowledge that there is more to life that just what we physically perceive. So you are not alone op - although many on try to argue the opporsite.

Agree there are many people who prey on the vulnerable to part them with their money in the name of spiritualism.
One of my friends who has a mental health issue spends a fortune on this type of stuff despite being on a limited income.

I dont know about angels but i beleive in the soul.

By definition you are unreasonable as such a belief is not based on reason, but it clearly helps you personally.

The “inner voice” can be explained by psychology.

Thinking of it as spiritual isn’t U but isn’t very consistent with atheism.

Was the therapist who told you you were “an empath” (?) properly qualified as a counsellor?

I'd never force my beliefs of knowledge on anyone. I've no right to.
However I'd find it very sad and terrifying if there was nothing. People can't just fade into nothingness.

Auditory and visual hallucinations are common with many mental health issues, including depression.

However, its your absolute right to believe