...to think no, it IS a swear word? (Warning: v. petty argument)

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I have been wearing a tatty old university hoodie to do garden work this morning. It has a swear word (shit) on it. The DC do not appear to notice this or care, but I'm conscious others might prefer their cherubs to be protected from such language.

I mentioned to DH that I should prob change my hoodie if heading to the shop. He asked why. I was and invited him to use his eyes. He maintained his stance. I got irritated. He explained that TECHNICALLY shit stands for 'Ship high in transit' and so is theoretically (and in law, apparently) inoffensive and so I can wear it to the shop with impunity.

I got more irritated and called him a pedantic asshole who understood perfectly well the point I was making and was choosing to be obtuse. He said he wasn't responsible for my poor education and that of everyone else in Britain. Angry words ensued. I am now pacing the kitchen calling him the second Rees-Mogg (strong stuff, I know, but am riled).

He IS being deliberately dense here, right? Surely the good people of MyTown will look upon me with disfavour if I wear my debatable sweary hoodie out and about?

I told you it was petty

Wiki is not the best source of information, you know!

Fuck is a derivative also of 'fecund' This has its origins in the Latin fecundus and also Middle English, meaning fertile or 'to fertilise'.

OK,so the question no one seems to have asked yet... WHY is there a Shit on your hoodie???

i want to know where you live that children need such protection from mildly sweary words

I would say it's a swear. But the more important question to my mind is Do you care? I mean, I'm pretty loose with my language but would not go out with a swear word on my clothing but I also know people who rarely let a swear word pass their lips but run around in very sweary clothing. So it comes down to how you like to get your profanity out of your system.

"He explained that TECHNICALLY shit stands for 'Ship high in transit'"

Asreholes it does.

As quite an old piece of English literature has it:

"And shame it is, if that a priest take keep,
To see a shitten shepherd and clean sheep:
Well ought a priest ensample for to give,
By his own cleanness, how his sheep should live."

as any fule do know.

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Why thank you lottie and Suki sadly no blog but I am a professional writer! Sadly not in a field that allows any expression of personal opinions though, which may be why I post here so much....

Diana I used your first example and he got all pseudo-shocked at me! Not the same thing apparently

boojum that is fascinating, thank you!

I bought the hoodie back in my hippy student days eons ago; in fact I had he final say on wording as I was the society president it says something like 'the thing we do' is all a bunch of 'descriptive words' shit. We wanted to deliberately rip the piss out of ourselves, never thinking that 20 years later it might cause social embarrassment in Lidl (not Waitrose alas)!

And finally, a good star for observation to gigglebrain

Incidentally, I have been to Lidl now and did change my hoodie - from a slightly rude piss-taking one to a far more earnest SJW one. I now await your thoughts on which is more offensive!

He should see my old university hoodie

Non Circum Coitus

If your swear word is in latin, does it count as a swear word?

NitrousOxide I think you're saying you're even pedantic about pendantry!!!!

Oh FFS, I've just seen all the typos. Professional writer my arse.

Even if its not a swear word it's not something I'd want on my chest in public.

An I the only one intrigued by 'crumpet gate'?
misses point of thread

I see much worse words than "shit" emblazoned on hoodies in my local Waitrose! And no-one seems to turn a hair.... That must be a very low class branch

I saw a woman, with a child sat in her trolley😵😵😵😵, with a hoodie which had on the back a picture of a vampire or similar along with the words "rip their ducking heads off".
I almost fainted.

backronyms !

Now to find a way to slip this into a conversation...

PS. I had a friend at Uni with a poster that said 'Sod off, basically' . I coveted it for years, and remind her of it periodically.

The best backronym I used to know was TWAIN. It was taken from Kipling's "The Ballad of East and West" — '...and never the twain shall meet...' to reflect how hard it was to connect scanners and PCs (I used to write the software). However, many people now think it means 'Technology Without An Interesting Name' . Which is pretty cool!

Coronation Road Adventure Playground always marked their equipment very clearly.

Bestseller it's on the back, and I was 19 when I got it it now serves as a warm yet tatty body covering which I don't have to worry about preserving.

Ihope it was an epic battle which I can't quite remember the details of. Never have so many been so angry over enthusiastically leavened bread

Yes Wtaf was crumpet gate?

Just seen the answer, thanks op

Slightly aside from the point, my DH and I often disagree on whether a word is a swear word or just rude. He too is a pedant.

I have now gone with the stance that - if our 4 year old would get told off for saying it as school - it is now deemed a “bad” word and not to be said in front of the children.

(He can swear as much as he likes when they’re not around, as do I)

I heard my son exclaim 'shit' recently, and tried to casually question him about it to avoid making it a big thing that I would forbid and he would therefore be compelled to repeat ad infinitum.

I asked him if he knew what it meant and he said 'Yes - it's the word for when you've hurt your leg. And I just hurt my leg.'

We left it at that, and he hasn't said it again since, but in case your husband wants another utterly fallacious, but far more useful, definition, then he's welcome to that one!

DoJo I shall insist upon the word only being used for injured-leg incidents from now on

Beezie

RelaisBlu Guilty as charged!