To be very glad I don't work with some Mumsnetters

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You shouldn't take sick leave unless you're practically at death's door.
As soon as you're capable of crawling out of bed you should be back in work.
You should never, ever be even 5 minutes late no matter what the circumstances or how flexible you've been re working extra time.
Unless there's 20 ft of snow blocking your front door you should get yourself into work.

Honestly, I'd have been sacked long ago if some of them were my boss.

I think it needs to be 40 ft of snow blocking all doors and windows, and anything less means you should not only be at work but you should get in early and stay late!

I agree with you OP, many people have very unrealistic expectations.

DP is immunocompromised and these people who work while clearly too unwell to be in public scare me. Especially since we are lucky to work in companies with generous sick leave policies.
Selfish IMO.

im a sahm and i only go into work (dh's business) when i need to cover holiday or sick leave, i have been at work all week while ill as someone is off sick.
i need my bed.
and if i work saturday i insist on a glass of wine at 4pm (its the rules)
i dont think i could ever work for some of the bosses i have seen on here.

Agreed! A job is just that. A JOB! I have no loyalty to any employer.

I find the attitudes of some posters on here in relation to work quite depressing. There's no leeway, no flexibility and sometimes a complete lack of humanity in the way they view things. I could not work for some of those rigid intransigent people. I'd be completely miserable.

God yes. Especially the whole being on time thing. I mean, if you work in a life or death job then yes, please get to work in plenty of time. But if you're in a normal office then what's 5 minutes here and there? I work in central London, the amount of people that get wound up by other people being a few minutes late is astounding. Many of us are travelling in on the one train every 30 minutes, there's not a huge amount of flexibility and so what if we are 5 mins late and then take a 55 min lunchbreak? Or, you know, be treated as an adult to just get our workload done?

Generally though I'm glad I don't work with some MNetters because of the number of posters who are determined to never make friends at work or even be vaguely friendly. You don't have to be friends with your colleagues. But why start every new job so close minded to meeting new people?

Agree there are some perfect Pearls on here. Amazing how many people are suuuuuuuper Hoooooomam

Oh God, I'd have been out of a job long ago if I had to abide by the rules some posters think are reasonable and sensible. I was berated on here once for not checking my work emails everyday while on holiday. Some posters seemed to think that was an absolute crime.

Do people really live like that? Or are they just trying to wind posters up?

I posted here last week about having nothing to do at work and was told that as a civil servant I should be deep cleaning the office!

Oh and yes, the absolute refusal to even entertain the idea that you might make a friend amongst the people you work with.

What's that about?

I have no loyalty to any employer
Sadly, its this growing attitude that means that employers are also showing less and less care in people's individual circumstances.

I have had mostly wonderful bosses who have been flexible when I have needed it, but my attitude is that I value work and my superior highly and don't use any appirtunity to get out of it.

If you show commitment to your job, you are much more likely to get a boss prepared to return the favour.

I saw that post Polar. I genuinely read it a few times because I was convinced the poster must be joking. But sadly, I don't think she was.

Hahahah I agree

There are either some really strict bosses or employees who are martyrs

I agree, I've read a few threads in recent months about employment issues and so many MNers appear to be utter dragons in the workplace - or, if they themselves aren't, they simply don't see a problem with how their workplace operates.

It's a race to the bottom. Very glad that everywhere I have worked, in 25+ years, has not been like that.

Yes unless you are actually hospitalised you should be at work even then you will be wasting valuable nhs resources for daring to go to the hospital, and unless your house is actually hurried in snow completely then you should be at work and your kids should be sent to school even if the school is shut. You still need to at least attempt to get to work. Just walk the 60 mile round trip.

The being on time thing only annoys me when it's consist. Like there's one person at work who is late every day, buggers off randomly, takes long lunches, and then still complains about a 'busy' workload. Trust me, its not busy. He wanted to move to a different team because his work was so busy and when he found out how actually busy that team is, he changed his mind.

People like that are annoying. But now and again isn't no.

swingofthings - I’ve always worked for large organisations and they do not care. Not one iota! They can get rid of you for anything, no matter how much “loyalty” you have or if you work hours of unpaid overtime. As soon as you leave a job you are forgotten. We are all easily replaceable.

On my death bed, none of the jobs I have done will matter.

I know what you mean OP!
And you shouldn’t work or have children if you have to take any time off with them ever.... just feel the love and support.

I think a lot of people just have bad employers.

My work are fine if I’m late on occasion, wouldn’t want me to travel in the snow and would send me home if I’m sick.

I think you must have worked for some very understanding employers. Having worked many years for the NHS that’s EXACTLY what is expected. And a lot of guilt laid on about the extra workload on your colleagues if you aren’t there

There was a thread last week where a poster about to retire in a few days had taken a couple of long lunches with people wanting to treat her before she left. Her boss had a word with her and told her she needed to watch her timekeeping. I mean she was literally retiring in about 4 or 5 days.

A depressing number of posters thought the boss's attitude was quite reasonable.

Either I would have been sacked or I would have walked.
No way do I answer emails/calls/texts on my own time.
Yes, I will stay 5/10 minutes late, but hours a week for free? Fuck that.
Shit happens and people are late. We cannot control traffic/public transport.

I actually put in a grievance for the above when one manager insisted on the above. I won as to do the batshit stuff required would have taken me under nmw. One of those rigid people who couldn't understand people were different and just because she was on 80k+ a year and worked overtime, this also meant everyone else had to including those on nmw. My mh took a battering because of her, just like it would from many on here with their unrealistic views.

I would have been sacked for sick leave - own and dependants. I would have been told to get an emergency sitter - yea great, let's go to work and pay more for the childcare than my days' wage. And of course, leave the sick child with someone unknown whilst screaming for mum.

Especially because a large number of jobs are “bullshit jobs” that don’t actually matter.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/25/bullshit-jobs-a-theory-by-david-graeber-review

I have no loyalty to any employer

Sadly seems to be true these days for many people. I must be old school as I am very loyal and have rarely moved jobs on a whim. However, I must be incredibly lucky because my current boss/colleagues are amazing. We are one big team that really get on well (don't socialise out of work though) and my boss pretty much lets me do what I like, when I like. Work From home? Not a problem, I don't even have to give advance notice, I can make my own decisions on the day if I feel like it. That said I am extremely loyal to him, and generally do way more hours at home than I am paid for. I don't think I would be as loyal to a rubbish boss.