To think that an 11 month old does not have 50 words?

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I was casually googling 'how many words should my baby speak' yesterday and I came across a thread where numerous people swear blind that their baby can speak 20 odd words, some saying up to 50! Am I right in thinking that's madness? Any more tiny, chatty genius babies out there?

Dd is 18 and cant even recite the alphabet

I know one child who might fall into this category. She started talking at 8 months, but has a sister 10 months older and they have always pretty much been on the same level vocabulary wise. She’s now 14 months and has been using two word sentances for a while ‘mummy cuddles’, ‘daddy help’ etc. I don’t know how many words she knows, but it’s a lot.

In contrast my 14 month old can only say ‘Dat’ while pointing, and then starts screaming when I inevitably get it wrong.

I think this is a stealth boasting thread tbh. That was fast😂😂😂. Aging that image in my mind. As I said, all children are different, and arson different development trajectories. I wasn't all that bright as a child, not talking much, was quite behind at school, socially and academically. I came out if my own as a teen, and have a good BA (Hons) degree in Psychology and an MSc,

@Cookit see this is what I mean! I think DDs speech is advanced, nothing spectacular but she definitely communicates better than any of the other babies her age. She says like maybe 6 words and she'll be 11 months next week. I just can't believe there are babies out there using full sentences of 50 clear words!

That is about right for me.

I’m autistic though, so was very advanced in some areas... so as proud as my parents were, it wasn’t necessarily a “good” sign

Herd is a video of a 17 month old girl who can read!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3y0ahkVfaE

At 2.5 Ds took to tipping his plate of food over his head.

Nursery were very concerned but he grew out of it.

Dd who was at the same nursery remembers him looking very pleased with himself as baked beans slithered down his hair and face. In the meantime there was friends dd reading The Wind in the Willows and looking at him with disgust.

A few years later her brother was doing the same as Ds.

I don’t think it is about how much in put you put into a child but more about the child themselves.

One of mine could. One could only say about five words age 2 1/2. The youngest was somewhere in the middle.

The early talker is quite good with languages in general, and a chatterbox.

I genuinely didn't understand the point of sign with baby classes at first

@GloryForGloves

I was intrigued by all these ‘my baby was reciting the complete works of Shakespeare by 11 months posts’ (especially loving the one who could recognise and identify colours, cupcakes (which I’m sure an 12 month would never have eaten) and remember to be polite enough to say please). So I had a look on YouTube as I’m assuming all these parents of baby geniuses would have recorded something interested - so far no requests for pink cupcakes. If anyone finds a video I’d love to see one as I am highly skeptical (bearing in mind that the milestone is 50 words at 2 YEARS* )

I’m also chuckling at some of the posters asserting that they said 50+ words at that age. Assuming it’s not your super memories and that your parents have told you this, do you not think it may be possible that your parents have exaggerated (Lets be honest, we all do as it parents).

Your comments are incredibly snide and rude, and you are actually coming across as rather bitter.

So what if the average milestone for saying 50 words is 2 YEARS! ? (I doubt that myself - but I am sure your youtube source is obviously correct!.)

All children are different. So some will be saying many words BEFORE that.

The average age for a child to walk is 9 to 12 months, but my DD didn't walk til 17-18 months old. But I am not sitting here calling people liars, and scoffing at them, implying they are talking shit, if they say their baby started walking at 10 months old.

Be as sceptical and sarcastic as you like, with your silly 'people who say their baby is reciting Shakespeare' line (which no-one has!) but it doesn't change the fact that some babies can say 50+ words by the time they are 12 months old. Just coz YOURS can't/couldn't, there is no need to be bitter, and scoff at people whose babies CAN.

As i said, my DD didn't walk til she was 17-18 months old, but I don't sit here implying people who say their baby walked at 10 months old are full of shit.

As for the poster who said her friend was deluded because she said her baby/toddler could say several dozen words, but she (the poster in question) could only hear babbling. As another poster said, many mothers can understand what their baby is saying when other people cannot.

Like regional accents... When my 2 pals from Glasgow start a conversation, most people can't understand half of it because of the way they pronounce some words, and the slang, and the dialect. But I can, because I hear them speak - a lot.

I know a child who did, she's one month younger than dc1 and is amazing with communication. Dc1 didn't say anything until nearly 2 so I was paying a lot of attention, she really did have that many words. At 2 she can have a full conversation with adults and knows hundreds of words now.

So what if the average milestone for saying 50 words is 2 YEARS! ? hmm (I doubt that myself - but I am sure your youtube source is obviously correct!.)

Who said I YouTube’d that? Is your reading comprehension really that poor? Just trying googling it, looking at Babycentre, etc...

Be as sceptical and sarcastic as you like, with your silly 'people who say their baby is reciting Shakespeare' line (which no-one has!) but it doesn't change the fact that some babies can say 50+ words by the time they are 12 months old. Just coz YOURS can't/couldn't, there is no need to be bitter, and scoff at people whose babies CAN.

I have literally never met a baby who could say 50 words, ever. Not just mine. But even on the allowance that an 11 month could say 50+ words I am commenting on full sentences with context and meaning that others could understand. That I don’t believe. And I can’t find anyone posting any evidence on that front. Considering people love to show off their children accomplishments I can’t believe I can find a video anywhere like that.

As i said, my DD didn't walk til she was 17-18 months old, but I don't sit here implying people who say their baby walked at 10 months old are full of shit.

There is LOADS of evidence of 10 month olds walking. I can’t find any evidence on 11 month olds saying ‘please can I have a pink cupcake, mama’ or the likes. It might have happened but I am high skeptical as I (and most PP) have never seen anything like it.

There is a massive difference between being bitter an skeptical. Read into what you like, but until I see it I don’t really believe it.

As for the poster who said her friend was deluded because she said her baby/toddler could say several dozen words, but she (the poster in question) could only hear babbling. As another poster said, many mothers can understand what their baby is saying when other people cannot.

But is that talking? My six month old makes sounds that I understand, because I know him so well, but that obviously isn't talking. It's communication, of a sort, but not talking. If no one else can understand what the baby is saying then the baby isn't really talking, surely? They're on the way there, which is brilliant, but calling them 'words' seems to be jumping the gun a bit.

I'm with you gloryforgloves - as I said upthread I think it's telling that this thread has so many people saying their own children could do it and only a handful saying they'd met someone else's who could (and those tend to be much less astonishing, i.e. child who knows impressive number of words rather than claim that 1 year old can speak in eight word sentences) when it really should be other way round - for every mother of a child who can do this there should be a lot of amazed witnesses!

Some babies are early starters. I was reading fluently at 2. At 28 I still can't do maths to save my life and all my other milestones were average. Sometimes kids are just really ahead in one area. They might be really early talkers but still not dry at night by 10.

There is always a point where you understand your own far better than others do. Or maybe that's because mine did speak indistinctly for some time?!

I have a 14 month old who BTW has about 5 actual consistently spoken words that are used correctly or nearly correctly ("throw" for "ball") and another 4 signed ones if you include waving bye bye and shaking head for no. She understands a lot more language than that, though, and communicates an awful lot through pointing. She has said other words as well, apparently correctly, but she hasn't repeated them and ignores me when I use them to her and I think they need to be consistently used properly to count.

I think it's really hard to say whether babies at 10 months or below are saying words or saying noises to mean something or just saying noises that sound like words. Signs too - my daughter did the sign for milk very early indeed because she was copying us, but she only started to use it to mean "milk" at about 11 months. Conversely she had been using particular sounds from about 8 or 9 months on that I suddenly realised were attempts at words used properly in context when she was about 11 or 12 months. And again I think probably she was originally just enjoying the sounds. So I think with stuff like "50 words at 11 months" there may be some parental optimism at play in including words that are being used without meaning or noises that sound like words but definitely some babies start having fun with sounds and meaning earlier than others.

I used to get very hung up on this stuff but tbh now that I know she's roughly where she should be I am less concerned. Neither walking nor talking early are associated with amazing intellectual prowess later on - they all end up in about the same place by 3 I think unless there'z serious delay but a friend of mine who is a speech therapist says that "delayed" is a lot further on than "later than average"!

NB in real life I am considered (at risk of sounding showy offy) very articulate and well read and I didn't talk at all until well past 2.

I don't think gibberish that only Mum and Dad can understand counts as talking.

Equating baby "talk" to a heavy regional dialect is a bit silly. There are loads of people from the same region and some outside of it that will understand others with the dialect vs only Mum and maybe Dad understanding their baby's "words".

I know when my daughter makes rapid excited grunting sounds it means she's spotted something she wants...but I'd hardly call that talking.

Also, I keep reminding myself that they are growing bits of brain to let them do these things. Like children don't start speaking in sentences because they are clever, but because they have suddenly developed the bit of brain that helps them do that. So if there was an 11 month old speaking in sentences, that would mean that he had developed the neurological functioning to do that earlier than expected, but at the end of the day most NT adults can speak in sentences and so having that ability early doesn't make you more likely to be super clever. It's like some children reaching their adult height at 14 and others at 16.

Which does not stop me clapping at my daughter when she does grow those new bits of brains, obviously

My daughter now 2.5 spoke from 7 months but she didn’t have 50 words until she was over 1. Her first word was “oh dear”!

She could say five word sentences at 18 months.

Oh, and her clarity has always been outstanding. Even strangers could understand her. Her use of English is incredible.

A stealth boasting thread if ever I say one!

She's the type that freaks me out Osirus! Very adorable though!

DS was an early talker. He had about 15 words at 12 months . Recognisable ones.
Mummmm
Dada
Kit
Duck
Dicdic- biscuit
Gann- grandma/grandad
No
Iss - yes
Peep - slip
Dat - that
Coa- coat
Kika - kit kat
Nana- banana
Ooooh - ow!
Toos- juice
Me

Those sorts of things
Some were just noises that we recognised.

DD now 20 months doesn't have many more.