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To ask if/how it is possible to make a really good curry using curry powder /dried spices?

54 replies

tinysnickersaremyfavourite · 29/01/2019 20:48

Ok so I confess I am posting here for traffic.
But tonight I made a curry, using curry powder and garam masala and once again it just wasn't great. It doesn't taste anything like as curry-ish as it should given the quantity of spices that went into it.
I REALLY want to be able to make a super tasty Curry from dried spices but I just can't make it work.
I have tried using Madhur Jaffreys recipes, I've tried using preground spices, grinding my own spices, but it just never hits the spot. I'm a pretty decent cook usually so it's not that I'm totally clueless in the kitchen.

Pleeeeease can someone tell me what the secret is or point me to foolproof recipe?

OP posts:
Usuallyinthemiddle · 29/01/2019 21:36

Fenugreek seeds at the beginning and leaves at the very end give it the really curry smell and flavour. Season it well too and a dash of grated lemon zest will lift it. The frozen ginger garlic cubes are really handy too.

Floralhousecoat · 29/01/2019 21:51

@myimaginarycat glad you like it. I think the secret to a truly good curry is properly cooking the onions and allowing time for flavours to merge. The pp who said to cook onion garlic and ginger for 45 minutes is spot on. That's what I would do. Then after adding spices I would simmer and stir for a good 15 minutes in order to roast the spices. Then add chicken or fish. I don't understand chefs who tell you you can cook a chicken curry on 25 minutes or whatever. It's madness.

I dream of teaching people to cook. My meat curry is slow cooked and takes nearly 4 hours. It's tender and delicious. Everyone loves my curries, especially meat and chicken. Meat with chana dal is yummy. We ate that today. I'm going to cook mince curry and also a salmon and spinach stirfry tomorrow.

I'm on a low carb no sugar diet atm due to pcos so am dreaming about food.

MyFriendGoo5 · 29/01/2019 21:58

If you're on Facebook there's a blog thing on there called this Muslim girl bakes.

Her recipes are amazing. And so simple.

verytireddontknowwhattodo · 29/01/2019 22:03

I second Muslim Girl Bakes- she even includes step by step pictures so you can cross check! Her food is delicious.

easyandy101 · 29/01/2019 22:03

I dry fry/toast spices for meat curry, not always for veg and not for fish, sometimes for other seafood

Meangirls36 · 29/01/2019 22:03

I grind them and make fresh bahjis and deep fry them

SaucyJack · 29/01/2019 22:06

Have a look at the Dan Toombs method.

You need to make a thick onion and veg gravy with lots of oil as a base for a really tasty takeaway-style curry.

littlemisscynical · 29/01/2019 22:07

www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1993658/homestyle-chicken-curry

OP this recipe is the first curry I made that tastes like a proper curry. The secret is blitzing your onions and ginger in a food processor or nutri bullet with some water.
It forms a thick sauce. It's actually so easy. The worst bit is having to take out and clean the food processor.

Give it a go. You won't be disappointed.

Ionacat · 29/01/2019 22:13

Look up The Spicery - we have their How to be a Curry Legend Cookbook which comes with dried spice blends and you can make any of the curries with it and they have all turned out delicious so far.

palindromeam · 29/01/2019 22:16

Ooh. Fabulous recipes. Love cooking a good curry.

TonTonMacoute · 29/01/2019 22:20

I have Meera Sodha’s book Made In India, Cooked in Britain. It’s great.

^ This. It's a fabulous book.

user1482134515 · 29/01/2019 22:40

Ghee! That's the secret Wink

BlackForestCake · 29/01/2019 22:45

A good curry is more about the onions than the spices to be honest. Don’t go buying fancy spice pastes. Get your onions right. Use twice as much ginger as you’ve been using. Don't skimp on oil and fresh coriander.

IncyWincyGrownUp · 29/01/2019 22:48

I am not placemarmong for a day when I’m actually awake. Nope, not at all.

TarragonSauce · 29/01/2019 23:01

Even using the frozen chilli, garlic and ginger would be an improvement.
There's a large range of freshly frozen spices and basics available now, in the frozen veg aisle.
I always have the 'curry trilogy' in, as well as onions. I also batch cook onion/celery/carrot and blend roughly to give a frozen base for British stews and casseroles, although I see you can get that ready-prepared and frozen at Tescos now.
Also keep in madras and tikka pastes now.

Imperfectsusan · 29/01/2019 23:27

Is it impossible to make a good curry without using oodles of oil? I can't have much, due to previous gallstone issues.

Lovelyflowerstoday · 29/01/2019 23:31

Yes loads of fresh ginger, garlic, dried tumeric, cumin, cinnamon, curry powder, love some fruit in it too like sultanas and an apple chopped in.

Lovelyflowerstoday · 29/01/2019 23:32

Susan I use a dollop of coconut oil, not very much really.

Lovelyflowerstoday · 29/01/2019 23:32

Agree those curry pastes aren't great, they all taste the same imo.

QuietContraryMary · 29/01/2019 23:49

ginger isn't required for curry.

main thing for curry is a shitload of onions. depending on the kind of curry you can chop them and fry them, but tbh blending them is a safer bet.

also shallots or the indian shallots are slightly preferable to brown onions.

you will also want garlic and fresh chili.

powders of any kind are a bit of a no-no tbh.

as far as fat goes, yes you probably want a lot of it, either through fatty meat, or I think in Asian cooking a lot of oil or ghee, or through coconut milk. If you buy coconut milk in a can look for the one with the highest fat content (15g or so). Light coconut milk is idiotic.

Spice wise, fresh turmeric is fairly widely available now and much nicer than powder. It also keeps a long time. No need to peel just bung it in the blender with the onions, garlic & chili and any amount of water till it blends.

You're going to want to use various dry spices but for me coriander is always the key, it goes with anything. Cumin is for your dark meats like beef or lamb, with chicken you can consider fennel. I'd be looking at coriander being the biggest quantity say 1 tbsp, and the other ones maybe 1 tsp. Grind the dry seeds up first, so they're a powder. Add black peppercorns if you want things to be spicier, but it's a different heat from chillis and it's not required.

When you're cooking you can add lots of different whole spices, specifically some or all of cloves, cardamom pods, cinnamon stick, star anise (probably best with stronger meats). Give them a fry.

Curry leaves are good, but quite expensive and don't keep well in the fridge.

If you start off with some oil, frying the curry leaves, various dried spices will bring out some flavour, then add the spice paste (which is basically onions + chilis + turmeric, maybe ginger) and fry that before adding the meat.

You can add a bit of water if you've something that needs cooking for a long time like mutton, and then add in coconut milk towards the end.

Tamarind block (it's basically mushed up tamarind with seeds still in) can be used for fish curries and anything where you want a bit of sourness. Lime/lemon juice will do the same job before serving.

A more Thai style curry will use lime leaves (buy them frozen) & lemongrass (you can bash and add whole, or blend very thoroughly) to give a different flavour profile from Indian.

Sugar can help sometimes, palm sugar is better but not necessary.

Powders of any kind are a no-no.

You won't really go wrong if you have plenty of whole spices, lots of onions, fresh chilis, and don't be scared of fat.

Colabottles64 · 29/01/2019 23:50

Recipe for a super simple and delicious vegan curry: thehappypear.ie/recipe/5-minute-chickpea-curry/

QuietContraryMary · 30/01/2019 00:09

"½ a red chili "

lol

feelingverylazytoday · 30/01/2019 00:22

I agree about blitzing your onions in a food processor. I find garlic and ginger puree out of a jar works well also to get the right consistency.
ImperfectSusan I've seen a technique on youtube where they use a small amount of boiling water in a very hot frying pan to 'fry off' the onions and spices. I haven't tried it myself though.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2019 00:36

That vegan chickpea curry looks fantastic.

Imperfectsusan · 30/01/2019 08:49

Thank you Feleverylazytoday.