Worried about diamond in engagement ring

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My DP proposed to me last week. The ring is the one we had picked together in store, he got it from a local jeweller that we've always trusted and due to the nature of the store there's high value items at a lower price.

The ring was advertised as a diamond ring, the carat wasn't on the piece of paper but the jeweller quickly checked and said it was approx 1ct.

Now I'm worried we've been duped:

• the cut is beautiful, it seems far too shiny, too perfect
• they didn't list the carat on the ring whereas they usually do, but they did write 'diamond ring' and this ring was more expensive than those advertised at 1ct and 1.12ct
• apparently they're sending DP the valuation but I don't really understand this as I obviously have the ring
• the receipt states 'diamond'

The issue is that we would have been duped, i know he paid thousands for it and i'm just worried.

It's set in 18ct white gold, markings to show that.

Does anyone know what to look for, when I look online I don't really get the lingo?

The valuation is for insurance purposes, pretty normal to get it separately. It could be a synthetic diamond rather than a natural one if it's too "perfect". I'd take it to another jewellers for valuation if you're worried although I don't really get why you think you've been duped beyond it being too nice!

My one came with an information card about the diamond (Canadian ) and all the different gradings, colour, purity, cut, etc, I think they are labelled with letters.
And a number in engraved on it (you can't see it with naked eye) and on the card.

this ring was more expensive than those advertised at 1ct and 1.12ct
It could be less than 1ct but have exceptional properties and makes it more expensive
Let me see

www.goldsmiths.co.uk/i/diamonds-the-lowdown

www.goldsmiths.co.uk/i/diamonds-the-lowdown

Mine carries this certification

But maybe not all do?

You can take it to another jewellers to get it valued. They can then tell you if its a genuine diamond or if you have been duped. There was a thread on here last week about a woman who was wondering if the ring she inherited was real. A few people said if it glows blue when lit with a backlight it is likely real. I dont know how true this is though.

The value of a diamond isn't just about the weight. It's also about the cut, clarity and colour. I recently got my jewellery valued for insurance purposes. The jeweller, Pravins, charged £60 per item and for that I got a report about each piece. You could do that for peace of mind. You need proper information to be fully insured anyway.

My engagement ring came with a diamond certificate, containing all the vital info. Did you get anything like that? If not provided with the valuation then I'd definitely be asking a different jeweler to look at it for me.

Normally when you buy a diamond it’s not only about the carat. For instance, a 2 carat diamond with a low cut, clarity or colour would be a lot cheaper than a 0.5 carat better quality one.

They should have told you the clarity - eg. VS1 (no imperfections), VS2, S1 (some imperfections under microscope) and so on until you get the diamonds that have imperfections to the naked eye, S3 etc. I can’t remember all the grades, but it’s something along these lines and the jeweller should certainly have given you a certificate with all this info in it.

Then there is the colour - I think blue is the most expensive, going down to the more yellowish ones.

I would go back and ask for all this and have it independently assessed too.

I think D is the most expensive colour, but anything down to F is still considered very good and you wouldn’t notice the difference necessarily.

I don't understand, are you worried you got some cubic zirconia instead of a diamond? Hope not. If you place your stone over some text, can you see the letters well, or are they distorted? If first - it is not a diamond, if second - yep, you've got a diamond

As per @planespotting my diamond came with a certificate with all the grading information on it and the serial number.
The serial is engraved on the diamond so you know they match.

hello, there would not necessarily be a certificate and this is in standard guidelines and is the case with a lot of diamonds. I have bought a diamond ring from H Samuel and never received any certificate.

I tried the paper trick, not sure I understand because obviously the diamond is set. When i put it on it's side over some words I can kind of see the black but can't tell what it says

Mine came with a 'passport' card with all the info on. I'm the jeweler they used this device thing to show if it's real diamond or not...was like a pen thing with a needle on the end.
Go to any reputable jeweler and they are able to tell a real from a fake using an eye piece that looks very closely at the stone.
It was Ernest Jones mine was from who used this special device thing for authenticity

OK, think that we will just need to go into a jeweller then! it's all very stressful.

It's from a family business that's been around for 80 or so years, I doubt they'd ruin their rep for a few thousand.

So you think it's not actually a diamond? Because it's too sparkly?

OP why are you suspicious? Is it not a reputable shop? Or why the feeling?

If it was second hand, it's highly unlikely you'd get the gemology card with it, and the same if they have the goldsmith on the premise doing new things. I don't think that an established family business are going, as you say, to trash eighty years of good reputation for a few grand.

New diamonds are very sparkly. I had my 17 year old diamond ring cleaned last year. I was gobsmacked how sparkly it looked after being cleaned properly.

Diamonds don't need to come with certificates. They are issued if the stone is special and also to help sales.

Valuation being sent on is fine and is for insurance purposes.

The letter trick will only work on round brilliants as it is based on the light being bounced around the cut tolerances. So if you can look straight through there is a problem as the light is not being bounced as it should. Much less effective when set.

The stone size is only one value consideration. You said the cut is beautiful, this raises the price.

The clarity is the big one, so if you have a VS it worth more than a larger S.

The blue light trick is based around the stone showing fluorescence. I wouldn't bother with this.

I doubt you have a problem, if the valuation states the carat, clarity and colour then enjoy your stone.