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To not allow DM to see DC? (Possible Trigger Warning)

11 replies

YepItsANamechange · 25/01/2019 08:17

NC for this, mostly because I don't want anything I may have previously posted to impact on opinions on this issue. Also, get yourselves comfortable because it's kind of a long one.

DM has extreme form for erratic, spontaneous and ill-considered behaviour. I feel that in this day and age she would most likely get a bipolar diagnosis, but she won't engage properly with MH services or follow any recommendations from family/friends regarding this matter. She has left a trail of divorces and tempestuous relationships in her wake, and decided to walk out on Dsis and I in our teens to follow some Disney-esque dream of life on another continent. I fully believe that she intended for us to follow, and justified her choice to herself in these terms, but of course neither of us did and she has only been a transient presence in our lives for 15+ years now (this is perhaps a shining example of the behaviours she displays during a mania phase, some with long lasting ramifications).

She also displays some severe arrested-development tendencies in her emotional interactions with others, and will infantilise herself in a situation to try and delegate responsibility for her fears and anxieties. I remember her discussing all of her relationship issues with me as a child (I was referred to as her 'little psychiatrist') and it is only as an adult in a healthy relationship that I have come to realise how seriously fucked that this dynamic is/was. Needless to say, I have been left with a mess of social and general anxiety issues which I am just beginning on the road to working through, with professional help.

The point of all this is that, after all this time, DM is now talking about moving back and integrating herself into family life more. Recent interactions with her have confirmed my suspicions that she has made no improvement on her boundary issues, including (trigger warning) discussing her suicidal impulses in front of 2-year old DD and telling her that 'Grandma is just having a bad day'. I wasn't there to hear this personally: DW reported back to me, I would have come down on it like a ton of bricks if I'd heard it firsthand. DM has literally no self-awareness of the damage that this foisting off of your emotional baggage onto children who should not be exposed to, or feel responsible for, such matters can cause. Whilst she presents the outward image of a guilty martyr, she is in a lot of ways spectacularly selfish.

My instinct is to go into protective mode for DC: I absolutely will not have them exposed to the same shit, unhealthy dynamic that I experienced as a child. Frankly, I do not trust DM to know where the limits lie if she had them alone for a day/afternoon etc., as she has suggested she might when she is living nearby again. She definitely loves them and the rest of the family - I'm not querying that - but I am also a walking testament to the fact that that is really not enough. Whilst I obviously cannot and would not stop her from returning home, WIBU to prevent her from seeing the DC?

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DroningOn · 25/01/2019 08:20

Run..... Run for the hills.

No way I'd be allowing her back into my life or the life of my kids.

DoJo · 25/01/2019 08:21

YWNBU- my father is never allowed to see my children for far less extreme behaviour than that. You have to protect your children, there's simply no question.

JamPasty · 25/01/2019 08:21

Sounds reasonable to keep them apart to me!!

Singlenotsingle · 25/01/2019 08:24

Warn her in advance of those behaviours that you will not accept; make sure you stay with her if and when she spends any time with them, and then ban her if you have to. She's an adult. She knows the consequences. But if may not happen. Maybe she won't come back anyway.

NowYouHaveDoneIt · 25/01/2019 08:26

If it was to protect yr dcs from physical damage would you stop her from seeing them then? As you have experienced-psychological damage is equally as bad. Yanbu to stop her.

moita · 25/01/2019 08:27

YANBU at all.

greenlynx · 25/01/2019 08:40

you definitely should protect you children in this situation and yourself as well, you don’t need more problems on your life, you were affected enough as a child.
She might see them for a start with you present, but be careful, it doesn’t sound as she changed.

CrabbityRabbit · 25/01/2019 11:45

YADNBU.

The children must come first. Sounds like you don't have much of a relationship to lose anyway if she kicks off. That is her own fault and no reflection on you.

CrabbityRabbit · 25/01/2019 11:57

YADNBU.

The children must come first. Sounds like you don't have much of a relationship to lose anyway if she kicks off. That is her own fault and no reflection on you.

PositivelyPERF · 25/01/2019 12:02

She’s probably burned her bridges where she’s living and wants someone to look after her now. I don’t think ultimatums will work as she will still behave as she always has. I think you need to keep her at arms length as I can see her trying to move in.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 25/01/2019 12:11

Oh no, not even a little bit.

I am all for people with mental health issues having help, support and love from everyone possible. I know how vital that can be for their progress and their ongoing health. But I also know that your own children (and your own emotional health) have to come first and there are times when you have to choose between parents and children. There is no contest; you have to focus solely on your children and only ever allow contact you're all comfortable with and which impacts positively on your DC.

It's so hard to challenge someone who might feel that they "deserve" a place in your home and your family. But you need to be tough here and remember how much you're giving your DC and how much happier they are going to be because of the choices you've made as a parent.

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