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AIBU to sometimes just want to see my parents with my kids?

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Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 18:57

I have been a step parent to my SD for over 10 years, she is 12 and I have tried very hard to do my best for her over the last 10 years. It was me sitting outside her bedroom door putting her back to bed again and again until 4am and me who provided the interface between her Mum and my DH to make us a good, functional step family.

I have 2 daughters now with my DH, they are 6 and 9.

Recently SDs behaviour has become increasingly difficult, tantrums, violent rages etc. and she has told me that she is very confused about her feelings about me as I have on one hand ruined her life by marrying her Dad and she is sure her life would be better if he and her Mum were still together but she also loves me as I have been around since she was 2 and (I thought) we were pretty ok.

My husband has always held up the ideal that I would be a Mother to her and I have always said that she has a Mother and I will be a third parent but not a Mother to her as she already has one.

Her behaviour recently has been appalling, violent rages, really rude etc. not nice and having a detrimental effect on us all but nothing I would say that wasn’t typical hormonal budding teen stuff. However, I have told her off for it and said it is unacceptable. DH has decided that my treatment of her is unfair and as she is only with us 2 days a week I should stop and I am making her feel unwelcome. I have caught her out telling outright lies about what I have said to her to him but he won’t listen and just says ‘that didn’t happen’ when I challenged him with it.

When I cuddle my kids I can see he is thinking why aren’t you like that with SD? I was, but she is 12 now and not so cuddly but he just doesn’t remember.

He is completely unwilling to listen to anything I say and is just saying I obviously hate her and don’t want her in our lives.

What seems to confirm this for him is that I sometimes take my two Ds to see my parents but not SD. I have taken her plenty of times when we have gone as a whole family but generally yes, I do go and see my parents with just my kids since my parents and DH stopped talking to eachother (whole other sordid tale!) It makes him very angry that she is not included. To put this into context she has been on holiday with us and my parents (my parents paid) plenty of times. We never go away as a family unit without her and the only time she is not included is when my parents take DDs during the holidays to provide childcare 3 times a year and then when I go up for weekends very occasionally, perhaps once every 3 months.

SDs mum often takes her away for weekends abroad and I am too worried about what DH would say if i did the same with my 2. I feel he is limiting my DDs lives with his resentment and perception that SD is being treated unfairly.

What do I do? Am I being unreasonable just taking my two kids up to my parents? And am I being unreasonable in thinking DH feels guilty and has unrealistic expectations from me?

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Ladyoftheloch · 22/01/2019 19:05

Your DH sounds awful and is being so unfair to his daughter. No wonder she is confused and miserable if he wants you to be mum when she already has her own mother!

Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 19:08

Really? Is it not me being unfair and divisive? I feel SO GUILTY that I am not taking her up to see my parents but I work, I hardly see my parents and I'm not even sure why I am making excuses - do I need excuses or is it just ok?

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CandleConcerto · 22/01/2019 19:12

Plenty of kids would leave their biological kids behind for a visit and a bit of respite, OP. He’s laying it on a it thick. Ironically, because he knows you’ll feel bad because you love her so much.

Weathermonger · 22/01/2019 19:17

To be honest, her bad behaviour and lies alone (regardless of being DD or DSD) would preclude taking her on visits. To have an older sister who is prone to violent rages, your younger two daughters deserve a break from that sort of behaviour. Your husband needs to get his head out of the sand and realize what his daughter is capable of, the outright lies would be very troubling. What has she lied about that you don't know ?

BooksAreMyOnlyFriends · 22/01/2019 19:17

12 year olds are often horrible. It's such a difficult time so you have my sympathy. You and dh need to show a united front and be absolutely steadfast in your rules. If she's lying and dh is excusing that he is setting himself up for even worse behaviour and it's probably making her feel insecure.

As for taking her to see your parents. It's important she has a relationship with them as her sisters do. She's part of the family too. Can you visit them on the days she's with her mum? She's less likely to feel left out than if you're going off on the days she's visiting.

Subtlecheese · 22/01/2019 19:20

He needs to pull his finger out. I don't know why he isn't talking her through her feelings about you "ruined her life". I mean, we know teens love that chestnut for most adults they lash out at. In picking up her unacceptable behaviour you are doing the right thing.
He sounds a bit like he's laying it on because of his distance with your parents as well. Which is very divisive on his part.
I'm curious what they fell out about but then on the sd thing he needs to be providing the boundaries as well as you. In fact the whole parenting team does. You acted as a go between before .... I am kind of hoping his parenting is better than that sounds.

Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 19:21

Hi Books,

I have tried to go away on weekends when she is busy but it is not always possible.

Thanks everyone, I know he is being unreasonable but I don't know how to get through to him. He is absolutely convinced that I am deliberately excluding her.

I have to go and put the kids to bed so I haven't disappeared!

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TeaAddict235 · 22/01/2019 19:36

Does she see/ spend time with your DH's parents at all? Shouldn't she be building a relationship with her own grandparents if she is encouraged?

He is annoyed that she isn't brought along to visit your parents because it means that he has to do something else with her, I.e. babysitting isn't available for her and his hands are thus full.

He needs to see The boundaries and work on integrating his daughter with her biological grandparents and family.

BottleOfJameson · 22/01/2019 19:42

Well your DH is being divisive and not at all constructive but there is a very obvious divide coming across in "your children" and "DSD". It sounds like DSD is going through a difficult time and you're using that as an excuse to not have her around as much. While I can totally understand that I can see how to DH and DSD it looks like she's not love unconditionally. It must be pretty rubbish to be a second class citizen your homes since you're not there all the time and the "real" DC are top of the pile.

BottleOfJameson · 22/01/2019 19:44

If you're leaving her at home while she's actually with you and DH then yes I definitely think YABU about that - how unkind! (That doesn't excuse DH's behaviour though).

Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 19:45

His parenting is generally pretty good, but every now and again this same issue comes up and it is really draining and to be honest does make me feel resentful.

Prior to him falling out with my parents we did all go and visit as a family. This all happened last year so I guess I will take her up at some point. But she is absolutely included whenever I take them on day trips to see other relatives, we go and visit my brother and his family regularly (without DH but with SD) and she has been on day trips to see my Mum with me twice in the last few months - it is just that sometimes I need a bit of time with my parents and my kids. BUT he makes me feel really really guilty about it.

I once bought two items in a sale that happened to be the same sizes as DDs but there wasn't one for SD. He went stratospheric because I had excluded her.

It is very difficult and I don't know what to do.

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Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 19:49

Bottle of Jameson could you tell me what makes you say that she is a 2nd class citizen? I am genuinely trying to understand.

She has a whole other life outside our family but when she is with us she is just one of us if you see what I mean, except occasionally I just take DDs to see my parents. Otherwise she is not treated any differently when she is here.

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Aprilshowersarecomingsoon · 22/01/2019 19:51

His guilt for not parenting his dd 24/7 is damaging his other dc imo.
Your dc are entitiled to see their dgp without her there. Especially given her behaviour. Does she not have a life when without you all? How does dh justify your dd's not getting the same if she gets to go somewhere?

CandleConcerto · 22/01/2019 19:52

I think it’s really common for SD’s to project like this. There’s often a lot of guilt around breaking up a family unit and people hope to recreate the same bonds for the sake of the kids. But that’s his issue. Not yours.

scaryteacher · 22/01/2019 19:56

Bottle The Op isn't her Mum so should she love the SD unconditionally? I love my ds to bits, but that doesn't preclude me seeing his faults, and trying to help him deal with them.

The Op also has DSDs Mum to deal with...if anyone called my son 'their' child, there would be hell to pay. His parents are dh and I, no one else. My Dad's wife tried the 'I'm his granny' bit. No, she bloody wasn't. ds had two grandmothers already and neither was giving ground on including my Dad's OW.,

blackteasplease · 22/01/2019 19:56

His rages sound like the biggest problem you all face tbh! And I'm wondering if this is the example that she is following in her angry outbursts.

He needs to work together with you on all of this, not create tensions where there aren't any.

WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 22/01/2019 19:57

Does your DH ever take all 3 DC out by himself? It sounds like he wants the me-time as well as it all being so unfair.

Theaspidistraiswilting · 22/01/2019 20:08

He rarely takes them out himself.

I am beginning to wonder if I am going mad. I do love SD but I feel like no matter what I do it is never going to be enough for him.

I have suggested family counselling but he doesn't want to discuss our family with strangers.

When we are out without DH we usually have a pretty good time the 4 of us. SD is immensely touchy but she is 12 so I don't really let it get to me.

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Fontofnoknowledge · 22/01/2019 20:43

Such a load of bollocks to call her a 2nd class citizen! Why is this all OPs issue ? SD has 2 parents , her mother and father. THEY are the ones who should be stepping up. No way should you feel guilt tripped about spending time with your parents and children- perhaps HER FATHER could take this as a golden opportunity to spend some precious one to one time with HIS child.

Honestly - SM can never win on MN - they are either too clingy and need to let dad and kids enjoy time together- or treating them like second class citizens by NOT taking them everywhere with them !

So DH expects you to take his daughter with you on trips to your parents .. (which he doesn't attend) ? What would he be doing during this visit then ? Feet up child free I guess while you do all the childcare .
Fuck that OP !

As for love unconditionally, yes for sure with my own children. Do I love my SC equally ? I love them for sure but if a meteor was heading in my direction and I could only save dc or sdc.. no contest.

DH needs to seriously up his parenting game and stop projecting his inadequacies onto you.

JE17 · 22/01/2019 21:16

I'm a step child who was brought up to call DSM's DM "Grandma". Yet once she had DC of her own it became very obvious that they were a different level of grandchild to me. Does your DSD think of your parents as her grandparents? If so, I think it's quite cruel to leave DSD behind while you take your own DC, emphasising the difference. On the other hand, at 12 perhaps she'd prefer to have her DF to herself for a while, it would be a great opportunity for your DH to do something special with her.

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