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Some people will always have to try harder to get a job?

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Tensixtysix · 21/01/2019 12:48

Just that really. If your own family or friends don't own a business or know how to 'pull strings', then it will always be harder to get a job if you are not a 'family' member of the company?
You'd think that they would choose people on their experience and qualifications, not because they know X amount of people in the company?
A NDN always boasts that she can walk into any job even after not working for years because she has 'family'.
No wonder some people don't even bother with qualifications. They have it all set out for them.

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 21/01/2019 12:50

Well yes, that can’t be surprising that some people have an easier time of it than others. Can it? You know family businesses exist, why would it be surprising that those people employ their family members?

Huntawaymama · 21/01/2019 12:52

Well I guess having family there would make it easier but tbh I don't know many people who do work with their family 🤔

JasperKarat · 21/01/2019 12:52

Most businesses are not family businesses. Family businesses by definition are run by a family, I'm not sure what your point is

Timmytoo · 21/01/2019 12:57

Some people will find life easier in general, mainly those who don't suffer from mental health problems and are confident from childhood. Some people don't even have to work as they have inherit wealth. Some people will always be poor even though they work hard. That's life in general.

As my saying goes: Life can be good, life can be shit. You're going to die anyway so do what the hell you want! Grin

Iaintdonenothing · 21/01/2019 12:59

Poor you.

I've always had a job and never worked for family or their connections. Make your own connections by volunteering/internships/working your way up - that's how most people do it.

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 21/01/2019 13:00

Nepotism has always existed hence the expression 'it's who you know, not what you know'. It has existed in every job I've ever had, whether its been a blue chip company, or local government, or NHS. Nearly all jobs are passed round on a who-you-know basis with an element of professional reputation.

If "A" is head hunted into a company with a senior role, "A" will always take his/her own people with them to provide a secure support network.

A NDN always boasts that she can walk into any job even after not working for years because she has 'family'. How is this unusual? Most people move jobs on personal introductions and recommendations.

Your qualifications only ever get you your first interview, there after its your own ability, reputation and networking.

Kazzyhoward · 21/01/2019 13:00

Very few people are employed in their own family businesses. Good for them if they're in that position, but probably 95%+ aren't and manage to make their own way in the world.

Just as many, if not more, will get jobs by people they know outside families, i.e. school friends, neighbours, past job work colleagues, etc. A lot of jobs (mostly low skilled) go to friends of existing staff, i.e. the employer asks them if they know anyone needing a job when they're needing extra needs, or the worker themselves puts in a good word to their boss, or even just mentions to a friend that jobs are available and prompting them to apply.

My neighbour's son has just got a job as an apprentice for a plumber who lives down the road - his Mum was talking to the plumber's wife when out walking the dog. I presume you think that's unfair too!

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 21/01/2019 13:01

No wonder some people don't even bother with qualifications.

Apathetic attitudes do tend to render peopel unemployable.

Pachyderm1 · 21/01/2019 13:01

I don’t think I know anyone who works for a family business. What industry are you talking about?

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/01/2019 13:02

Yes, some people will always find it easier because of their connections or "social capital". No matter how much you try to achieve "equal opportunity", it will fail because of this. It is important also to try to lessen inequality of outcome, so that even the "losers" could achieve a reasonable quality of life. Unfortunately we've been heading n the opposite direction in this country since the 1980s.

brokenhead · 21/01/2019 13:39

I would never work in a family business
I've seen it rip apart my husbands

And my husband and I work together and we bicker about jobs and opinions all the time
Don't talk about much other then work it's not very romantic nor convenient

thecatsthecats · 21/01/2019 14:40

My mum has been trying to recruit me for years. The earth will be consumed by the sun before I say yes. She was desperate enough to take credit for everything we achieved at school.

I grew up in a rural area and saw a lot of farming families. I know it doesn't happen everywhere, but seeing them just revolve around their family property, marrying in connections that were a bit close for comfort, and the children being kept off school made the whole thing very... Ick.

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