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To ask how these monsters got six years in prison?

38 replies

therewillbetime · 18/01/2019 18:49

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46904928

I quite simply don’t get it. Our systems stink. How can things like this happen in this day and age?

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Sarahandduck18 · 18/01/2019 23:25

They will have a hard time of it in prison from the other inmates for a crime like that but yes life should mean life.

MrsAckles1991 · 18/01/2019 23:34

And let’s not forget the privileges in prison, visits, tv, meals... More basic rights then a lot of other people (such as elderly) who haven’t committed horrific crimes!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/01/2019 23:36

More rights than their victim

MadCatEnthusiast · 18/01/2019 23:59

Mothers who kill their children don't fare well in prisons whether other inmates struggle to see and miss their children so, they'll get what they deserve in another way.

GoGoGadgetGin · 19/01/2019 00:03

beans the one I think you are writing about came on the radio today as I was driving my toddler back from nursery, shouting Mummy at me as he'd dropped a
toy - I actually had to pull into a laybay as l was so upset. Both these cases and the ridiculous sentencing sicken me.

Bejazzled · 19/01/2019 00:05

They should be starved to death
Have you seen the size of them - they surely haven’t lacked food - it would take more than their pathetically short sentences to starve them.
Disgusting sentence for disgusting humans.

timtam23 · 19/01/2019 00:12

This was so so sad to read, the poor little girl. And there are other children too. Horrendous.
beans I think I know the other case you are referring to, it is also incredibly upsetting, that poor poor child.

garethsouthgatesmrs · 19/01/2019 00:15

This is horrific and 6 years is not an appropriate sentence. If they believe, as it is suggested, that one or both of these women have mental health difficulties then they should have intervened more and earlier. Most of these dreadful stories are about children between 0 and 4 perhaps we need the state to do more and have more powers to intervene. I didn't realise you could refuse help from social services if they were concerned.

It's all very well having checks available for babies and toddlers but if you are not required to attend perhaps they are pointless. Would anyone really go to their child's one year review if they knew their child wasn't well cared for or was abused? Surely if these things were compulsory and followed up by SS if you failed to attend it would help children's services to flag up concerns. How many more of these children are there around the country that the authorities aren't even aware of?

Bellasorellaa · 19/01/2019 00:18

They got six years because that’s what the judge gave them

Common sense.

garethsouthgatesmrs · 19/01/2019 00:18

More rights than their victim

Interesting question - who stands up for the rights of children before they start school? We usually expect the parents to but it is depressingly easy for the parents to get away with abuse of their children in the first five years. Most of these children wont die so we wont even be aware. Surely something has to change.

converseandjeans · 19/01/2019 00:21

I found this story and the little boy in the car really upsetting. Small children and babies seem to be in more danger at home. The sentencing is appalling. So sad.

Sarahandduck18 · 19/01/2019 09:24

They’ll go to cornton vale which is such a bad prison it is being shut down and replaced. They won’t have an easy time there. Lots of suicides etc.

Re: under 5s it is the health visitors responsibility to monitor them. Most social work cases are under 5s.

BitOutOfPractice · 19/01/2019 13:35

I don't care how bad it is. It's too good for them. And I am very far from being one of the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade

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