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Verbally abusive housemate

38 replies

Loka123 · 15/01/2019 08:27

Hi all,
Quick back story: Live in a house share of 4 people, I (female) share upstairs with "Bob" and another guy. I used to get along well with bob to the point we were friends - a lot of the girls in the house wouldn't even bother saying hello to him and looked at every chance to be bossy and rude to him (although they were rude/bossy to everyone in general anyway). He'd always have several hour long convos with me as I was the type who'd be friends with anyone as long as they were nice. He's over 20+ years older than me/rest of us (i.e. in his late 40s), which is another reason a lot of the girls weren't too keen on being friends with him.

He was a classical people pleaser, very soft, outwardly scared, shy etc. even though he had an arrogance internally where he'd tell me he'd only ever commit to a white british female (he is asian, with a foreign accent but has been here for a number of years now) and he'd only use any other woman to use for one night (with the lights off during.. so he wouldn't have to look at them) and similarly vile thing, which I obviously didn't like about him (and I am not white british either but born here) but I never disagreed or agreed to his odd views.

Another thing I did not like about him is that no matter how rudely or unfairly a white british female housemate treated him, he'd never get angry (he will moan about it to me but that's it) or confront or get any revenge on them (which is fine) BUT if I even did something slightly wrong e.g. left the landing light on for a minute longer than necessary when he was asleep, I'd get a stern text about it from him.. that's where my nice, overly friendly nature gets me...!

Then, we had further issues, where he'd try and pressurise me to go on holiday, all paid for, to sleep in the same bed as him.. I obviously said NO and he kept trying to make it seem like I was unfair.. wtf. He'd also make comments that apparently white british women allow him to hug them but I seem annoyed/uncomfortable when he tries to hug me..

yet he's been single for years as let me tell you, he's no looker AT ALL.
He'd make remarks how attractive I was etc. which made me feel weird and I politely told him not to. yet he got worse and would touch /squeeze my hips etc. whilst walking past me, when in the kitchen etc. which really offended me. I wrote him a stern text never to touch me inappropriately again nor make sexual remarks and not fair for me to have to put up with that from a housemate.

He apologised but still continued with some weird remarks but no longer touched me. In the end, I spoke to him less and less (esp along with a disagreement we had about parking rights on the driveway).

I was tired of him always being soft and people pleaser-y to the white british females yet thinking he can do whatever he likes to me, esp when I've been his only friend..! The other upstairs male housemate left and he started to fill the communal bathroom cabinet about 90% full with his stuff (was probs too scared to do it when the other guy was here but currently room is vacant and he clearly thinks I'm too nice to have an issue about it I presume - it was kinda fine as I don't want to put any of my stuff in the communal cabinet anyway but thought he was selfish for doing it and showed his people-pleaser type by only doing it after the other upstairs housemate had left..

I don't dislike people who are horrible to everyone in an equal measure or nice to everyone in equal measure. What I hate is when someone thinks he can be rude to one person but nice to another, esp when he one he's nice to is rude to him.

One of the things he put in the cabinet was a box of washing tablets which seemed illogical as the washing machine is downstairs so quicker to get them from his room rather than bathroom. Out of curiosity, I opened it to take a look as he could be reusing the tablets container for something else or it could have been the landlady that put the container there..

Anyway, 2 weeks later, I (for no real reason) opened the container again for some silly logistical reason to see what the washing capsules look like, whilst brushing my teeth. I notice, to my surprise, he's filled the container with mud entirely now (he does do gardening for himself) and put a post it note in the container saying "DON'T STEAL THIS YOU UGLY TWAT"... I was completely weirded out by this as 1) Definitely never stole any of the capsules 2)It was a communal cabinet which he took 90% space in so had every right to see what was in there 3) He wasn't calling me an ugly twat when he wanted to sleep with me.. full of creepy compliments every day then..!
4) This is the guy who is scared to even look at a woman in the eye (even shy with me in person often) and stutters out of shyness.... also only about 5ft and in his late 40s.... I've never sworn at him or called him or anyone ugly etc..

What would you do?

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 15/01/2019 08:29

Get a lock for your door if you don't have one

Don't befriend racist misogynists in future

Move out

instasham · 15/01/2019 08:31

Id find somewhere else to live.

He sounds like the kind of guy who’ll have folk under his patio in years to come

Fluffyears · 15/01/2019 08:37

Don’t mention it, he wants you to open the box but if you pretend you never have it will take the wind out of his sails. Ignore him when he’s being a twat and when he says inappropriate things pull him on it immediately and yes lock your door.

sarahjconnor · 15/01/2019 08:40

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iloveruby · 15/01/2019 08:53

Distance yourself. Get a lock on your door. Find somewhere else to live and focus on asserting appropriate boundaries in the future.

SuchAToDo · 15/01/2019 08:55

Why would.you want to.be friends with someone who is such a racist...

You should never have to make someone like you, and if he I treating you bad because of your race compared to the other white girls,...then he can fuck off ..you deserve better, don't let him make you feel inferior because of whatever race you are, you sound like a lovely woman, don't let him get in your head and mess with you this way...

Don't mention the note in the washing capsules box, that's what he wants so that he can then have a go about you touching his stuff...don't give him the opportunity...

Get a lock for your door, he sounds weird like he crosses boundaries and who knows what the creep would do...

Are you friends with the white women?..have you ever asked why they avoid him?...maybe he has acted inappropriately or creepy to them (that you didn't know about) and they now avoid him ...if that many women are avoiding him, then.maybe you should be sitting up and paying attention, it's ok to be civil and nice to people...but you don't have to take.racism from them.or.inappropriate touching

Pachyderm1 · 15/01/2019 09:00

I would move out, and fast. In the meantime, get a lock for your door and avoid him as much as possible.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/01/2019 09:14

Jeezo, what Shox said!! Read this thread back and pack your bags - and quickly!!

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 15/01/2019 09:17

What. The. Fuck.

frenchchick9 · 15/01/2019 09:19

He is an absolute creep. I can't see a single nice thing about him. Why are you friends with him???? Why do you let him manhandle you???

I'd move out and live with someone less weird.

Horsemenoftheaclopalypse · 15/01/2019 09:21

What has I just read???

Get a lock for your door if you don't have one

Don't befriend racist misogynists in future

Move out

This x100

CoraPirbright · 15/01/2019 09:22

Yup agree with other posters. I would def be looking to move out. This guy is a creep and you have been too nice to him and he is now taking advantage. Urrgh your description of him is making my skin crawl.

StowawayJo · 15/01/2019 09:24

Seriously wtf why do you live there. Run for your life.

User758172 · 15/01/2019 09:25

Get the fuck out if there. What a creep.

lmusic87 · 15/01/2019 09:28

He seems horrific, get a lock in the short term and get looking for a way out.

The other housemates aren't looking out for you either!

KeiTeNgeNge · 15/01/2019 09:31

Wtf Confused

ciderhouserules · 15/01/2019 09:37

OP - I don' tthink it's him that is the 'people-pleaser'! I think it is you - you want to see the 'good' in him, he is shy and quiet/the 'white women' are horrible and ignore him... I think the 'white women' have been brought up to spot the signs of fucking creeps, and therefore avoid him. You have probably been brought up to believe that men are top, and you should be massaging his ego. And he has spotted that.

Not sure how you can think he is 'shy' and 'soft, and 'scared' when he is sexually touching you, tells you he only likes 'white women' and thinks of asian women as below him (BIG hint there about how he thinks of women - this means you too! Angry)

He is a total creep, and you would be wise to keep your distance, keep your stuff safe, stay away from him and IF he touches you again, report him.

No wonder he is late 40s, and alone.

Unfinishedkitchen · 15/01/2019 09:38

I can guarantee he’s been as equally nasty to the white women in the past which is why they are horrible to him now. It has nothing to do with his age. He’s a vile.

Move out. He’s a ticking MRA time bomb.

Bloomcounty · 15/01/2019 09:51

He's told you exactly who he is.

Are you going to listen?

onalongsabbatical · 15/01/2019 10:01

Honestly apart from anything else I'd think there was a hidden camera in the bathroom.
And I'd move.

CoraPirbright · 15/01/2019 10:05

And I have to say that I agree with Sarahjconnor - my mind went straight to the possibility of a camera in the bathroom. Otherwise how would he know you had peeked inside the washing tab box? This presents two scenarios: 1) he saw you on his camera and assumes you stole a tab or 2) he is paranoid. Neither is a particularly pleasing outcome.

bobstersmum · 15/01/2019 10:08

I would move out ASAP. He sounds very very similar to a patient at a hospital I used to work at as a support worker, he came across as very shy and harmless, but he was actually very very racist and was in the hospital because he'd seriously attacked one of his family members with a crowbar while they were asleep. He could even be the same person, if he is Asian but changed his name to an English one, it really could be.

nicelyneurotic · 15/01/2019 10:13

Oh I would move out too! What a horrible man. I'm annoyed that he's taken up so much of your time and headspace. He sounds like a complete loser and unhinged

Birdsgottafly · 15/01/2019 11:06

I agree with the others.

You've read him wrong and for some reason put the other Women at fault. For not being nice to him. That you need to think about.

They've got the measure of him and quite rightly, tell him how it is.

He's set you up as his next victim. Somehow he knows you looked in the box. That shows he's someone dangerous.

Get out ASAP. But please read up on abusive behaviour and why Women put up with bad behaviour.

You still see him as a people pleaser, because he's smarmy to the Women who see him for what he is and treat him accordingly.

That is their right. He can't argue with this, because he knows they know what he is.

Go to them for support if you need to.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/01/2019 11:42

Hes not a people pleaser. He's a both a misogynist and a predator. How many times does he have to be told not to touch you!!!!
Oh and his looks aren't why he's single. "Ugly" people still have relationships. Its his attitude

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