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To think these Women are Heroes

6 replies

badlydrawnperson · 11/01/2019 16:25

I don't need UC, but if I did I'd been screwed by the stupid design of UC.

It is very worrying that the people who designed and implemented UC refused to accept this was an issue - it's just common sense - but the Civil Servants refused to even consider it an issue.

The women who took this case are fantastic in my book.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46834533

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brizzledrizzle · 11/01/2019 19:44

I think what they have achieved is good. I wouldn't describe them as heroes for it, I'd be more inclined to think of the woman who was a single parent caring for her son with spina bifida as a hero. TBH though I don't tend to identify anybody as a hero - everybody has the potential to be a hero and it can be in many different forms which are quite subjective I think.

abbsisspartacus · 11/01/2019 19:50

Heroine the female version of her

And yes they are brilliant for pointing out what everyone in the dwp and recipients of UC already know it's not fit for purpose dwp does not make policy they implement it and everyone I've spoken to has said the same thing and their hands are tied

ThisTooShallPassInTime · 11/01/2019 20:02

I think they’re amazing and thank them, as despite not needing UC who knows what the future holds.

Yabbers · 11/01/2019 20:06

Genuine question. What is the problem they went to court about?

PeaQiwiComHequo · 11/01/2019 20:22

@Yabbers the system gives each claimant a set day of the month for assessment so eg 25th of one month to 24th of the next, regardless of weekends and bank holidays. obviously everyone's actual pay doesn't neatly fit into 12 exact months like that - eg monthly salaried people get their pay a couple of days early in the months where normal payroll day falls on a Sunday. Weekly or fortnightly paid people will have some months where they get fewer paydays and some more. so UC amounts vary wildly month to month rather than being reliable.

Part of the problem is the unreasonableness of expecting people living on the breadline to save a quarter of their benefit payment to keep them going in the months where they get less. Also for some, the idiosyncratic system means that they aren't classified as working enough to qualify for the "in work" categories of benefits in some months, despite actually qualifying, because they got paid for those hours earlier one month then later then next and therefore have a month of being assessed as not working enough.

abbsisspartacus · 11/01/2019 23:56

^^exactly you can be paid your usual wage but one day early and boom you lose your UC or you could get paid just after the assessment and again you lose if your considered a nil wage they want you job hunting (even though your working full time) if you don't apply your sanctioned and yet you are working full time

Met a girl once she ended up with 12 sanctions good job her parents fed her

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