To think that these people have got it all wrong!

[Yesornono]

Two ppl today!!
Person 1 on Facebook: oh I am just so happy to have started my new teaching job!#officiallyateacher

Me (to myself) eeehhhh... you are not a teacher you are a teaching assistant (not putting down TA’s (as I know they are a godsend) but... there is a difference between teacher training and TA training 🤔

Person 2: in the supermarket, I bumped into an old friend. Having a catch up and she tells me her daughter is in college, I say fantastic etc what is she studying? Answer: Law, ooh fantastic etc etc then she says “ I know just think in 3 and a half years (she’s half way through 1st year) she will be a solicitor!! Me (to myself) eeeehhh NO in 3 and a half years she will have a law degree 🤦‍♀️

AIBU to think these ladies have got it all wrong!!??

Does having kids make you a
Domestic engineer
Tectonic engineer (the inevitable volcano project)
Child psychologist
Mediator
Personal assistant
Chef
Driving instructor
Personal driver
Time management specialist
PR manager
Photographer
Events manager
......the list goes on. Boy my cv is shit hot

DH is a world leading expert in his field and if you google his name there are thousands of hits and he is often quoted in newspapers and asked for his expert opinion. He did somethung that caused an international stir quite a few years ago. He never tells anyone we meet socially it was him.

TA's what Yesornono?

Why do you care? Are you that insecure?

There are lots who gloss over what they do for good reason. I know family in the police sometimes do not say what they do depending the situation. At secondary school I told some kids my DF worked in security rather than say he was a copper.

Snobbery works in odd ways, though. I posted on here ages ago about what I do, and there were people queuing up to tell me that the term I used to describe it was pretentious and I should just 'say I was a teacher'. I have no teaching qualifications. Given that response I'm not very surprised if a TA calls herself a teacher too.

Dottysmum18 have the issue that i am a qualified level 3 nursery practitioner which is very different to a TA in terms of early years education , so i have refured to my self as a nursery teacher as that is a more accurate description of my role .

A teaching qualification is level 4 for undergraduate or level 5 for post graduate qualification. Level 3 qualification is the same level as A levels.

Level 2 childcare qualification eg CACHE are the kind done in high schools. Are there many people with only a level 2 qualification working in nurseries?
I know that that there is no such thing as a level 1 qualification in childcare.

My mum used to to refer to me as a lawyer when I was just a law student. Used to drive me mad! I corrected her every time but god knows who else she said it to when I wasn’t about. She probably now tells everyone I’m a judge.

Great thread OP!

It bothers me because 1. I trained for years and worked hundreds of hours to be a "Chartered" professional. 2. I often have to fix problems for clients caused by people who gives themselves job titles they are in no way qualified for.

Ha Ha! I AM a teacher and even I sometimes lie and say I'm not (have been known to tell hairdressers or strangers at parties something else, for example, just so I don't get the usual "all that time off!"" and "oh a 9-3 job, you lucky workshy thing ) as I hate the comments you get when you tell people you are a teacher. I don't know why someone would want to say they are when they are not

I know someone who said “can’t believe I’m going to be at university in Oxford!” I thought the phrasing seemed funny and I was right- she was going to Oxford Brookes.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but she was definitely phrasing it so people would think she was going to Oxford

If I'm wanting advice on an electrical problem or am hiring an electrician I want them to be properly trained and qualified so I don't end up electrocuted!

Be careful if you ever want an accountant, because literally anyone can call themselves one. If you want a properly trained/qualified one, you need to look for the "chartered" title.

I am a retired cop (also reading a Stephen King book about a killer)

Hmm, I have a level 3 TA qualification. It’s the same level as A levels. A degree is level 6!

I won’t be calling myself a psychologist when I graduate next year shame though!
Although social work assistants often seem to do the job of a qualified social worker where I work.

@loubluee no unfortunately not, if it was it would have made more sense I suppose 😂

@LadyRochfordsHoickedGusset
I don’t understand your question??

A teaching qualification is level 4 for undergraduate or level 5 for post graduate qualification. Level 3 qualification is the same level as A levels.

First degrees (a BEd) are level 6 qualifications. Level 4 is one year post A level, Level 5 is two years post A level. Level 7 is anything nominally at masters level (from 60 credit PGCerts to 180 credit Masters) and Level 8 is a PhD and some esoteric equivalents. For historic reasons a PGCE is also a Level 6 qualification, not level 7, because what it does is convert a first degree into a teaching qualification which would otherwise be Level 6 (similarly, an MBChB is level 6, even though it takes five years, because it is notionally two first degrees).

There is a lot of silly snobbery bound up in this, because things like “Conversion masters” are barely level 6, being mostly the content of the first year or two of a first degree.

A family member of mine decided that they were a nurse. They hadn’t mentioned it until I qualified. This is my parent.
They were actually a cleaner in a hospital.
They still can’t be proud of me. I’m not a real nurse by the way (according to them) I’m a mental health nurse.

I know a nurse who passes himself off as a doctor because he has a PhD.

He is, of course, titled ‘Dr.’

That’s appalling. There is a lot of gentle snarking about what a “real doctor” is, a PhD or MBChB, and strictly a physician does not have a doctorate (unless the6 have a PhD as well, which quite a few do). Other countries don’t have the problem because they use different words for the two things.

I do think it is interesting that almost without exception MPs who call themselves doctors are medical, while the ones with PhDs in political history and so on keep quiet about it (Stella Creasy, say).

But in a medical setting, Dr clearly means “qualified physician”. Even if your PhD is in biomedical shit, to use that title around patients is deceitful. There is a place for the “real doctor” snarking, and it’s in a room containing only people with the titles in question.

I'm a surgeon because I've had lots of GAs, surgeries and watch every medical drama going on tv. Actually I watched that live surgery programme on tv last year as a refresher course.

Dd is doing an actual law degree but I'm going to tell her to finish it and just say she's a lawyer without doing the other three years to qualify

Nurse is a protected title in the UK, so any care assistant/nursing assistant passing themselves off as a 'nurse' is actually breaking the law.

I think the TA is cheeky. I'm support staff in school and yes I do a lot of work! But I wouldn't ever refer to myself as a teacher, I didn't spend years at university or a qualifying year teaching, I don't spend all night planning and marking and I don't have to attend frequent teacher meetings and training. So I wouldn't call myself a teacher, I'm not that cheeky.

Nurse is not a protected title in the uk. There is talk of making it so.

nursingnotes.co.uk/chief-nurse-announces-plans-legally-protect-title-nurse/

The title “doctor” applies, technically, to anyone who has earned any doctoral degree. ... A Ph.D., or doctor of philosophy, degree is one of a number of type of doctoral degrees; the difference between it and other doctorates concerns primarily the focus and methods of study. So a nurse (or anyone) saying the are a “dr” when they have achieved a PhD wouldn’t be wrong per se. they are not a “medical” dr of course but still a dr nonetheless.

And also I think I’m right in saying that surgeons actually go under the term “Mr/miss/mrs” not “Dr” as they revert back or is that old fashioned??