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any police people on here?

53 replies

houselikeashed · 05/01/2019 20:49

I have recently had to sign an Adult Restorative Disposal form because my dog was off his lead and nipped another dog. It really wasn't a big deal, but they reported me.
The form says it MAY come up on a dbs check. As I am a teacher this worries me a lot. I can't find much information on google about this. Can anyone shed any light as to how this may affect my job?
Thanks.

OP posts:
Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 21:45

Yes they sound so upset...
not a big deal.
Dear god if I was the other owner I would be livid!

I just re read your thread.
Apparently according to the woman had two puncture wounds on her hand.
And you state it must be from trying to separate the dogs.

😳

But yeah, not a big deal.

From the previous comments it appears highly unlikely there will be any negative repucussions for you.

limitedperiodonly · 05/01/2019 21:45

God. People on here are such cunts

nicoala1 · 05/01/2019 21:46

Dogs again, causing mayhem for either their owners or those around them. Huh.

Most dogs are fine, but honestly the amount of shit around our park, and letting them off leads to bound into me is not making me feel very nice anymore. Sorry if that offends anyone. I know most dog owners are responsible. I am referring to those who may not be.

The doggie population must definitely exceed the human population now though. They are EVERYWHERE. lol.

notthegreatestdancer · 05/01/2019 21:46

It may come up on a DBS form but it will not.

It is not a conviction or caution.

It will only be disclosed to the police if relevant to the role you are undertaking i.e teacher and whether it may show you are a risk to children.

If the police officer considered you were a risk to children and knew you were a teacher then she should have referred you to the Local Authority Designated Officer (LADO)

As others have said if it is disclosed ( which I very much doubt) then your employer will have to consider whether it is relevant to you being suitable to work with children. Being employed as a teacher a school would be hard pushed to impose any safeguarding measures on you ( unless you regularly bring your dog into school )

I would speak to your head Teacher and just make them aware of what had happened. But other than that don't worry about any DBS disclosure.

Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 21:46

No I am not and yes she does!!

Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 21:48

‘I admit he was off the lead and running free. He is a well behaved dog until now with good recal.
Today he ran off and bit a young puppy on the nose. It bled a bit.
I stayed to check the puppy over and it didn't look bad. But there was a lot of barking and aggression from my dog’

See!

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 05/01/2019 21:52

^Doggydoggydoggy* do you get pleasure out of pulling the legs off spiders? Pushing small children over? You seem the type.

CatnissEverdene · 05/01/2019 21:55

I was bitten last year when my dog was attacked, it's going to court next week. Police have brought it to a civil court case under a local Magistrate.

It sounds like you were very lucky tbh just having to sign a form.

I'm still stressed walking my dog. It's a horrid thing to watch Sad

HopeIsNotAStrategy · 05/01/2019 21:55

How does anyone make you sign something?

Seriously? A signature is a serious thing, you don’t just sign anything willy nilly!

Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 21:57

No.

I am the type of person that gets really pissed off when people allow their pets to bite and draw blood on other peoples pets unprovoked then try and minimise how upsetting and frightening that must have been for the owner and puppy by claiming it was really no big deal. Just a nip.
When it clearly, obviously wasn’t!

stopitandtidyupp · 05/01/2019 21:58

It could only appear in the bottom box of the disclosures and that's if there is any other information held locally that may affect your job.
Agree with maybe having a word with the head to put your mind at rest.

I don't know what you have to do to appear sorry enough op on here. Cut an ear off or something.
I am sure you have learned from the incident. I say this after being in the other end of something at Christmas involving my nephew and a dog.

Wolfiefan · 05/01/2019 22:00

Honestly? My dog was playing with another. We found blood on the other dog. Not a lot. No idea whether it was from my dog or his. Could’ve been one of them caught the other with a claw or one bit their own tongue.
Noses bleed like you wouldn’t believe. It wouldn’t take much.
If you saw the original thread you would see how awful and shocked the OP felt. And the dog hasn’t been off lead since.

looondonn · 05/01/2019 22:06

NO NEED FOR THE NASTINESS

MY GOD
REALLY UNFAIR

Sorry op that this happened to you

Yabbers · 05/01/2019 22:08

If it wasn’t a big deal, why the Restorative Order?

houselikeashed · 05/01/2019 22:11

Thankyou people for the helpful info/advice.
Yabbers - the people have totally over-reacted. We think/worry they may be after money from a claims firm or something.

OP posts:
Detoxpup · 05/01/2019 22:13

Doggydoggydog get off your high horse and stop posting unless you have something useful to say - we are aware of your compassion re training dogs!

If you read the OP original thread there was no mention of dog bite as the other women did not disclose this at the time of the incident. It may have been her own dog that bite her - no photos no witnesses etc.

Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 22:13

Like I said earlier, I hope it doesn’t negatively affect the OPs job.
I am not the big bad witch.

But at the same time I think we should remember that a puppy has been bitten unprovoked to the point it has drawn blood and instead of retreating we can only assume the dog must have continued trying to attack because the OP said in the original thread there was lots of barking and aggression from her dog and now the poor dog owner has two puncture wounds to her hands as a result of trying to separate two dogs who were still fighting.
While the OP was mortified and upset at the time, she is now saying it is no big deal.

Well it is a big deal to the puppy and it’s owner.
And it is a big deal for the police aswell who normally don’t give s shiny shit about dog on dog attacks.

I don’t understand why nobody else seems bothered by this?!
And I make no apologies for that viewpoint.

Doggydoggydoggy · 05/01/2019 22:16

detoxpup 😂😂😂
Oh please!
three years purely positive training!
What was I supposed to do?
Put her down?
Continue positive training while she declined further and further into a nervous wreck?

Mumsnet is truly ridiculous.

Tiredeyes21 · 05/01/2019 22:16

Was it a community resolution?

Schuyler · 05/01/2019 22:17

It shouldn’t have an impact on your job but I think you are seriously downplaying what happened. I’m not saying it was a vicious attack but your dog did attack another dog and the woman was injured, even if mildly. Try and move on from it now and maybe see if you can start again with getting your dog socialised. I think he’s still young, so,I’m sure it can be remedied,

JennyFisher12 · 05/01/2019 22:17

You really don’t need to worry- there won’t be any back lash from this

FFSFFSFFS · 05/01/2019 22:22

I'm with you doggydoggydoggy!!

And I've seen the other thread in the The Doghouse which I assume is the same incident.

Two puncture wounds to a person's hand is a BIG DEAL for a dog on puppy attack!!

I read the original thread and the OP was obviously upset. But I think to know dismiss it as overreacting and thinking they are after money from a claims firm?

I would think it is much more likely that both the puppy and the owner are pretty traumatised by the whole thing and want to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else and are therefore taking appropriate reaction.

If this had happened to me when my dog was a puppy - I think there is a very strong possibility both him and me would have been nervous wrecks going on walks afterwards. A dog attack like that can be very difficult to get over.

And it was a dog attack. On a puppy and a person.

SassitudeandSparkle · 05/01/2019 22:23

On your other thread, you said the dog owner had complained to the Police that she had been bitten - surely that's what the Police were there for, not the puppy?

houselikeashed · 05/01/2019 22:28

Just to put peoples minds at rest, I happen to know that neither the dog nor the lady needed any treatment.

OP posts:
youaremysunshine2623 · 05/01/2019 22:30

One of the key differences of restorative disposals is that they are out of court and when used with young people avoid unclean DBS. I’m pretty sure it’s the same with adults.