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To think he should have been more supportive?

22 replies

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 03/01/2019 22:11

I think I already know that I have made a mess of things. Again. DH and I have very different parenting styles. He has no boundaries and as a result I find I always have to rein everything in and it always ends up me being overly strict. I've tried and tried to discuss, we've read books, seen counsellors, but every time there is a situation with DD (who is a v challenging 9 year old with ADHD) he either undermines me or totally absents himself and then afterwards criticises me. He never ever sets any boundaries and all I can see is that she is getting terribly confused. This evening DD was being very rude and aggressive, shouting and screaming about every little thing - I told her that her behaviour was unacceptable and that I wasn't prepared to speak to her until she was calm. DH said nothing. She stomped off upstairs and DH went after her - so I asked him to get her to bed. A few moments later I heard them giggling and laughing and cracking jokes while she was brushing her teeth. I'm sorry but I didn't think that was appropriate in the circumstances. It feels like the message she is always getting is that it's ok to tell your mother to shut up and to throw stuff and get aggressive, because no one else minds about it - only the mother.

I tried to talk to DH about it afterwards but all he said was he didn't agree with me and the next time I asked him to get her to bed he wouldn't do it. I totally get that sometimes the best way to handle bad behaviour is to ignore it and focus on the good, but she has been going off on one ALL DAY and I was tired and I couldn't ignore it anymore. I just felt she needed to be told firmly that her behaviour was unacceptable. And he needed to back me up. For once. Was I being unreasonable? I'm so upset - both DD and I have gone to bed in tears while DH is sitting with his feet up watching the TV.

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ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 03/01/2019 22:16

Yanbu - would he be open to doing the nurture course or parenting puzzle course? I've done both and they're great - I think there is a post diagnosis one too. Discussing with others how being too permissive is just as bad if not worse than being too strict, and presenting a united front is v important I think personally.
I'm sorry you're having to deal with this - I know it makes a difficult situation even harder.

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 03/01/2019 22:23

The trouble is that he always thinks he is right - we have been to counselling and done parenting courses and I've given him umpteen parenting courses to read but he just says "I don't agree" - I think he must have some real issues as he just cannot face the idea of imposing any kind of discipline in case it "disrupts the harmony". I don't know what we are going to do. I just find it unreasonable. I am trying so hard to see things from his perspective - and I agree that sometimes I can be too strict too quickly, but he is just totally inflexible.

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Walkingdeadfangirl · 03/01/2019 22:26

So your ADHD 9 yo DD was rude, aggressive, shouting and screaming, then your DH got her to calm down and brush her teeth.

Confused Maybe you should try doing what your DH is doing, its seems to work.

Cranky17 · 03/01/2019 22:30

How about you taking a step back?
Looks to me that’s he’s good cop and your are bad cop, maybe tell him you are stepping back as he’s so good at parenting and see what happens

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 03/01/2019 23:04

Walking - I see what you're saying - but it wasn't quite as straightforward as that. He usually gets things calm by pretending nothing has happened and sometimes the jokes are at my expense. Getting things calm is a positive thing, I agree, but totally ignoring what's just happened with no intention of talking about the behaviour is something else. If he'd calmed her down etc and talked to her about why it's wrong to shout and be aggressive - would be different. Even if he did it the next day - but he never does. In her eyes, it makes it ok to just do it again. One parent says it's unacceptable; the other says let's have a laugh about being aggressive rude. She can take her pick.

I'd been getting her to be calm after her outbursts ALL DAY long , on my own, even though he was home - it was all left to me. I was just tired and wanted some support.

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LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 03/01/2019 23:08

Cranky - that is a great but scary idea! I imagine there'd be mayhem!

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Walkingdeadfangirl · 04/01/2019 01:13

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne, I assumed it was more complicated. Maybe Cranky's idea would be short term chaos but it would expose the consequences (if any) of your DH's strategy!

GreenTulips · 04/01/2019 01:30

Can you agree on a behaviour chart that’s visual

Rudeness / swearing equals X
Violence means Y

Ask DD to contribute

Each action must follow a discussion and apology for example

Then at least it’s in writing

Cranky17 · 04/01/2019 09:19

Cranky - that is a great but scary idea! I imagine there'd be mayhem!. Give a go, but embrace the idea as it won’t work otherwise. My ex used to be very similar, he’s sit there, mouth closed silently judging my parenting, them he’d step in all jokey jokey and they would respond to that because it was much nicer than my approach. However jokey doesn’t work all the time and particularly when you have a limited amount of time and the approach wears thin after the 15th time of asking some to clean their teeth!
So I stopped as I was fed up of being the bad parent, I would say on the days that didn’t matter to me as much so if going to his mums, or friday night bed time I told him they were his to get ready, I copied his behaviour, sat on the sofa while he tried to get them ready. It was chaos for a while but he had to step up and had to introduce boundaries; it some because more level parenting and vastly improved my relationship with my children

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 13:26

@walkingdeadfangirl - thank you

@GreenTulips - thanks for that suggestion - we have tried this kind of strategy but it doesn't really work for us on a number of levels - the ADHD results in more Xs than Ys which is why it is better to ignore the bad and focus on the good. Additionally, she is very bright and has manipulated star charts from the age of 2.

@Cranky17 - that's exactly how it is! I'm glad to hear that you have found a way around it - I will definitely give it a go - thank you for sharing Flowers

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Sirzy · 05/01/2019 13:30

To be honest as the mum of a child with adhd I think his approach is probably better. Winding the situation up more isn’t going to help anyone.

It actually seems the problem may be you both think your right and actually you probably both need to meet in the middle

GoofyIsACow · 05/01/2019 13:33

Isn’t she Bonnie... the newest baby? But they are talking about a Heidi... don’t they have a Heidi too?

GoofyIsACow · 05/01/2019 13:33

Sorry, wrong thread! Blush

bridgetreilly · 05/01/2019 13:37

It's fine that he can calm her down and laugh with her. That needs to go along with, "Now you need to apologise to your mum for speaking to her like that." You both need to support each other and she needs to learn that she can't play one off against the other.

Cassilis · 05/01/2019 13:44

I think I already know that I have made a mess of things.

How can things go right when he is sabotaging you so he can be the good guy?

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 15:56

@Sirzy - I have said that we were at different starting points - the problem is that while I have tried to move more towards the middle, he has not budged because he does not feel that he needs to.

I have also already said that I agree that calming down is the best approach - Not sure where you are getting the impression that I am winding things up?

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LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 15:58

@GoofyIsACow LOL !! Grin I'd love to know what you were talking about though!

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LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 16:05

@bridgetreilly - exactly my point - calming her down is great (although it's not helpful when the joking is at my expense). But it is never followed through with anything to help her to understand how to manage her emotions or the impact her behaviour has. And as far as supporting each other goes, I feel that I am the only one the does the supporting - it is just not reciprocated.

Yes, she's very smart and knows exactly how to drive a truck between us.

He would do ANYTHING to avoid awkward or stressful situations no matter what the rights or wrongs. I know it and unfortunately DD knows it.

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LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 16:07

@Cassilis - It does feel like sabotage, but I don't think it's deliberate - as I said above, it's like he has a phobia about situations which leads him to take avoiding action in every circumstance - I've tried to talk to him about this but it makes no difference. He feels he is right, has no need to change or meet me in the middle, so that's that.

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Sirzy · 05/01/2019 16:10

Straight after a meltdown is rarely the time to try to discuss things

LetsHopeItsaGoodOne · 05/01/2019 16:17

@Sirzy - I don't ever discuss straight after a meltdown - nor have I suggested that I wanted that to happen. What I have said that he never discusses, and never has any intention of doing so. That is a problem as far as I am concerned.

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RandomMess · 05/01/2019 16:23

This mismatch between parenting style is probably driving her anxiety through the roof. TBH she would probably be happier if you split...

Yeah she'd have no boundaries at his but at least you wouldn't have someone undermining you in your home...

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