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feminism sacrificing, family on the altar of righteousness???

48 replies

justasking111 · 29/12/2018 13:51

Reading through threads, I see a pattern. The OP post DP/OH doing whatever, sack him off, got kids, well go it alone. You deserve better.

He shouted at you, get rid.
He sulked, get rid.
He spent on a hobby get rid
Dont like his parents get rid. Kids upset - tough luck He wont spend on whatever, get rid.
He won`t toe the line, get rid.

When did we become so intolerant of others faults. There is not much I remember from Sunday school, but this I do recall.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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whataSummer · 29/12/2018 15:29

MN feminism is nothing like real life though. It's something I feel thankful for daily.

AbsintheFriends · 29/12/2018 15:30

I'm troubled by the punctuation in the thread title.

That comma - get rid.

Moonstoned · 29/12/2018 15:31

It is bothersome, Absinthe.

LagerthaTheShieldMaiden · 29/12/2018 15:38

I think the opposite. On MN I see a huge number of women apparently willing to put up with truly shocking, unpleasant and abusive behaviour from their partners. I rarely see an unjustified LTB

Agreed. Many more women need to come to the realisation that they don't have to put up with vile behaviour from pathetic abusive men. Sadly, there's a lot of 'any man's better than no man' rubbish on here these days.

PositiveVibez · 29/12/2018 15:44

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye

What a load of old bollocks.

Planks and sawdust and eyes. Oh my.

You are saying that the responsibility for the happiness of a relationship is laid firmly at the woman's feet.

Husband talks to you like a piece of shit - smile and tell him it's okay
Partner is financially abusive - forget about it
Man is verbally abusive to the kids - just ignore him.

Fgs. It's nothing to do with feminism, it's to do with humanism and being treated as an equal and with respect.

Doobydoobeedoo · 29/12/2018 16:03

I'm enjoying the irony of a thread title complaining about feminists giving advice based on "righteousness", followed by an OP that gives advice based on a quotation from the bible. Hmm

Neapolitanicecream · 29/12/2018 16:22

Is the OP male ?

whataSummer · 29/12/2018 16:29

@Neapolitanicecream

Because they're the worst kind of poster

Confused
53rdWay · 29/12/2018 16:30

Is the OP male ?

Certainly has an interesting posting history...

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 29/12/2018 16:31

Whats that got to do with feminism?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 29/12/2018 16:34

Oh i see there is something called MN feminism

So whats it got to do with MN feminism then?

And what is this They don't have cuck "DPs

Is it just a typo? Whats a cuck...is it a cock?

PerkingFaintly · 29/12/2018 16:37

setAsProfile: cuck
???

whataSummer · 29/12/2018 16:39

@Rufusthebewilderedreindeer

'Cuck' is short for cuckold - I believe the etymology is to do with the cuckoo. Males who invest effort into raising another man's offspring.

It's been bastardised (no pun intended) to include beta males who apologise for their sex, accept toxic masculinity and generally act in a slightly embarrassingly way when in the company of their short-haired, tattooed "wives".

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 29/12/2018 16:39

perking

And if it is cock dp...does that mean a dp with a cock.....or they are a cock???

ADastardlyThing · 29/12/2018 16:44

Says recalls something: posts cut and paste

53rdWay · 29/12/2018 16:47

whataSummer, what attracted you to Mumsnet exactly?

PerkingFaintly · 29/12/2018 16:47

Rufus, whenever I've seen it, it's been alt-right code for men who aren't Neanderthals, or who believe in anything the alt-right speaker doesn't approve of.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 29/12/2018 16:48

Oooooh i know what a cuckold is....

Oh ...i think i see

Im not sure i have a cuck husband...i do have short hair though

whataSummer · 29/12/2018 16:51

@53rdWay

Irony

And the AEN boards. Wonderful posters there.

roastpotatoesrule · 29/12/2018 16:52

I think there may be a higher than average proportion of divorced women on here and it’s reassuring to think of everyone being in the same boat as you.
Hmm
so all these divorcees on MN are hoping everyone else will get divorced. Yes that must be it. How reassuring if everyone around you is divorced at well.
WTAF

53rdWay · 29/12/2018 16:59

Interesting post-Christmas rush of men suddenly discovering an interest in MN and feeling compelled to tell us how wrong wrong wrong we are to be talking of things in ways they disapprove of. Lots of people off work and at a loose end? Lots of marital arguments about crappy last-minute petrol-station Christmas presents?

FuzzyShadowChatter · 29/12/2018 16:59

Maybe relook up Matthew 7 from where that's taken. It's one of my favourites (having wasted a lot of time studying this). The bit you snipped out just before that is discussing that whole 'by the measure you judge others is by which you will be judged'.

It's nowt to do with feminism - it's having standards. If people wouldn't have the same for a woman, that's hypocrisy whether it's based on the on some 'MN feminism' or one of the dozens of actual branches of feminism or anything else. However, a lot of the time, it's people putting up a standard to judge a partner that's pretty across the board rather than the exaggeration presented here. The speck and the log are showing varying standards that the individual ignores the greater transgression in themselves than in others.

It's like Matthew 7:6, which comes right after those verses in the OP, "6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Plenty of us put ourselves, which could easily be argued as the most holy and valuable thing any of us have, and give them to people who are the equivalent to dogs and swine who trample and harm us when really, people just need to spot the red flags and find ways to to LTB before any further harm is done.

Also, most people who have studied the Bible for long enough can find a way to for or against anything with the right usage of texts. It's really not that hard to argue for "MN feminism/LTBness" just with Matthew 7. It has quite a bit about wolves in sheep's clothes and how good cannot come from evil...and Matthew 7:23 "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 29/12/2018 17:03

Going by perkings definition I definitely have one of those

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