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Friend being selfish or me?

29 replies

Brokenfeathers · 28/12/2018 18:40

I don't know if I am being unreasonable here and a bit selfish myself to be honest. Bear with me it's a long one to avoid drip feed. My friend lost her husband 5 - 6 years after a short battle with cancer. During his illness I was there for her and teenage son as much as possible. Making meals and running errands. I was her shoulder to cry on many, many times after he passed. As any friend would do. I was there for each milestone after his death. She doesn't have much family in this country. Alot of friends started to distance themselves over the last few years with her. Still in contact but moving on with their life. I was there for arguments with her son as he grew up and dealt with his grief in his own way and they developed a massive divide. In the last year myself and my husband paid for a trip to Paris for her as a special birthday treat and it was somewhere she always wanted to see. I went with her and we paid for different trips etc. While on this trip I started to feel drained and my own problems were at the front of my mind too. A close aunt of my husband's had passed during the year and a close uncle on my side was quite ill. I began to realise that over the last few years none of my problems were relevant to her in the last few years. It was almost like a competition. Her problems were always worse. If I was unwell she was always worse. My husband's aunt passed it only brought back her trauma when her husband died so much so she didn't bother to sympathise with anyone in our house. The same when my cousin lost his wife. My uncle was sick but she had loads of uncles sick. I fell out with my mum it was worse with her mum and the awful things her son says to her. I think her son could be feeling the same as me. I feel like I have done everything I can. When we left Paris she insisted on finding a present for the lady that checked on her house each night we were away but never thought to even say thank you to my husband for the trip. My oldest child had surgery before Christmas and she never checked into see how it had gone. In fact the first I saw of her was when she came over to tell me how sick she had been. Her health has been awful with constant infections on top of menopause on top of depression since her husband died.
Now I know that this woman's loss was awful and devastating and her grief is ongoing but I feel like I am only a sounding board and that's all our friendship is now. My problems are irrelevant. Am I being selfish? There is no time limit for grief. She was due to come to us on new years day and I am dreading it. Am I being completely self absorbed here? Any advice welcome and willing to hear I need to cop on.

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aaaaargghhhhelpme · 28/12/2018 18:44

No yanbu. I am very sorry she lost her husband. But her life doesn’t trump yours. Friendship should be a two way street. You were there for her. Doesn’t sound like she’s there for you at all.

You’ve been an amazing friend. But I wonder if the reason a lot of her other friends have drifted off is because of something similar?

Have you tried talking to her about it? I’m only thinking of the slim possibility she just can’t see how insular she’s become. But otherwise she doesn’t sound like a friend at all just a user.

Lifeofsmiley · 28/12/2018 18:45

No yanbu or self absorbed You sound as though you have been an amazing friend who has went above and beyond the normal realms of friendship. But it’s completely one sided.
Time to take a step back and prioritise yourself and your family

LuckyLou7 · 28/12/2018 18:45

You don't need to cop on, your friend does. Grief isn't a competition. She can still be grieving yet have compassion and empathy for other people. You're not being selfish to expect a little bit of understanding from her. Maybe it's time to let the friendship drop - you're giving far too much of yourself emotionally to someone who doesn't reciprocate.

Santaissleepingoffmincepies · 28/12/2018 18:45

Sounds like your support has been taken so for granted she has become self absorbed. Actually say you are sorry she feels so shit but you have been too!! Maybe 2019 is time for her to stand on her own two feet? And don't feel guilty op. You have gone over and above already.

madmum5811 · 28/12/2018 18:47

Quite a parasitical friendship, I would step back a bit and take care of your own.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 28/12/2018 18:47

It does sound very one way. Sometimes, grief and suffering seems to become part of someone’s personality and perception of themself, and they just can’t let go of it.

Unfortunately, you’ve only really got two options: try and talk to her about it, if you think she’ll take it ok, in the hope that she just hasn’t realised how she’s behaving; or quietly let the aquaintance drop.

Blessthekids · 28/12/2018 19:00

I don't think either of you are selfish. Your friend is still grieving not only for a husband she has lost but also for the relationship with her son. She is stuck in the role of a victim where she sees nothing but problems and either does not have the strength or self awareness to move on from this. I feel like she needs some sort of professional counselling to help her get out of this hole. You have become such a constant in her life that she doesn't feel like she needs to say thank you but I believe if anyone asked her about you, she would have nothing but praise and love for both you and your dh, you have become like family.

You give, give, give and give from your post and I think you are totally exhausted both physically and mentally. You are a good person and your friend is extraordinarily lucky to have you in her life. It is time to give to yourself and actually become self absorbed. Recharge your batteries, rest and do fun things only, listen to comedy, ignore the phone for 48 hours and talk to a friend who you know can listen. In fact try not to see your other friend until New Year. She will be ok for a few days. I would also reduce my time spent with her so that you do not find yourself in the same situation, for your own sanity, it must be more balanced.

Good luck

PoisonousSmurf · 28/12/2018 19:06

Grief and loss changes people forever. They never seem to be themselves again. It all ends up being 'competitive misery'.
To them, anybody else's problem is an annoyance.
They can only cope with what THEY are feeling.
I've never known anyone that's had a big loss to be sympathetic. It's just too much Sad

Returnofthesmileybar · 28/12/2018 19:14

Yanbu at all! You need to say it to her, talking is probably best but I appreciate it's hard, you don't always get what you want to say out and emotions get in the way so you could write/email her. Say you know what she has been through and want to continue to be there but the relationship is one sided, you find it quite draining and you are having a fresh start for the new year so she either evens things up, stops being selfish and stops being negative or you will distance yourself. Say all that you said here

Brokenfeathers · 28/12/2018 19:22

Oh thank you so much. I felt like I was being mean because of the depression she deals with and I have to be patient with that. I don't want to abandon her and she has been good to me in the past too. I feel drained and quite annoyed sometimes. I felt like maybe I was changing for the worst and losing patience with age.

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AngelontopoftheTree · 28/12/2018 19:31

You sound like a wonderful friend! You deserve that your friend is just as good back to you. Hope you can sort it out.

poppiesallykatie · 29/12/2018 00:56

You sound like a great friend to have and YANBU. But there is maybe one other way at looking at it. A female relative of mine gives the best, kindest and most incisive advice I have ever seen a person giving. She is also extremely kind and supportive to anyway who needs it. Her own life is not going great, she has some issues with close family members that I would not wish on anyone. Yet people use her as a sounding board, an emotional mop. When I try to make her feel that she can talk about herself, she can't. Another closer relative can get her to talk. She is so used to being the strong one; that nobody sees her anymore and so her role is 'defined' to them.

I am not getting this point across well having reread that. Just that a friendship is a two way street; some people who are worth keeping in your life, still need it spelled out too, that you have stress, that you feel bad/sad and that the life they think you have is not as perfect as it seems. Don't toss her away without having some sort of conversation based on that.

KC225 · 29/12/2018 01:16

You don't have to abandon her but you do need to look after yourself. This friend sounds very draining, and as others have pointed out she doesnt seem to have much empathy with what's going on on your life.

Cancel New Year's Day. Send a text meaasge saying you will have to cancel as you have had family problems and you will catch up in the New Year. Do you have some other support OP? Your DP? Other friends?

BumbleBeee69 · 29/12/2018 01:38

OP even Angels need a break from being all things to all people, I think it’s time your friend stood on her own two feet and you step back from being at her beck and call 24/7. You and your family have gone above and beyond for this self absorbed ‘friend’ whereby she takes the high ground on grief and pain over your entire family, this is not appropriate or acceptable. Time to cut the emotional ties she holds over you all. Flowers

echt · 29/12/2018 01:44

Grief and loss changes people forever. They never seem to be themselves again. It all ends up being 'competitive misery'.
To them, anybody else's problem is an annoyance.They can only cope with what THEY are feeling.I've never known anyone that's had a big loss to be sympathetic. It's just too much

That has not been my experience of the bereaved. Apart from the first sentence, and that only from the perspective of the bereaved.

EmeraldShamrock · 29/12/2018 01:46

Your friend is UR. Friendship is a two way street and your friendship should be high on her list of priorities, you wouldn't put up with it from your DH. It is time to take a step back, leave it to her to make it up to you, otherwise let it fizzle out.

echt · 29/12/2018 01:51

Back to the OP. You've been saintly, and for one day I'd say suck it up, then cool the relationship right down. Losing patience with age is no bad thing, so if she's impossible, tell her straight. Make a list. She'll be able to mull it over next day and then you'll see her true colours.

I've done this, and the price was the end of the friendship, but also the end of years of resentment

Good luck, and happy new year.

trojanpony · 29/12/2018 02:16

You are not self absorbed, she is.

your relationship seems to have established an unhealthy dynamic whereby you are almost an emotional butler and comfort blanket

posthistoricmonsters · 29/12/2018 02:51

It sounds like you enabled her current behaviour with your kindness.

When I find myself in an unfavourable situation with a friend of acquaintance, I start to distance myself. Sounds like her other friends already have.

Guineapiglet345 · 29/12/2018 08:48

It sounds like she’s taking you for granted, especially getting a present for the person who checked on her house but not the person who paid for her trip, that would be the end of the friendship for me. I’d definitely take a step back from her.

BusyMum47 · 29/12/2018 10:09

Wow- you're an amazing friend! She's lucky to have had you in her life but she's MASSIVELY TAKING advantage now & you need to cut her loose & take care of yourself & your own family. Cancel her on NYE & have fun!! Good luck.

Grannyannex · 29/12/2018 10:21

Step back a little and look after yourself

TheNewYear · 29/12/2018 10:27

You sound like a wonderful friend that she has been so lucky to have by her side.

I don’t think you are being unreasonable or selfish to want the friendship to go both ways, so you get support from her. However, it could be that she doesn’t have any more emotional energy to give because it is already all spent on getting through each day. My husband hasn’t died so I am not able to put myself in her situation but I’ve never got over my daughter dying and for a long time, I was completely focused on myself because I had no capacity left over for my friends. Could it be similar with your friend that she is still grieving and struggling? What was she like beforehand?

Brokenfeathers · 29/12/2018 10:28

Can I just say thank you. I genuinely thought that I was starting to become a mean person. I will have a chat with her. Maybe explain that I needed her when we suffered a loss this year, she knew that aunt meant the world to us. My DH is relieved with your replies because I thought he was just being his usual brilliant self and having my back. Thank you for your time and perspective I appreciate it.

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AmIRightOrAMeringue · 29/12/2018 10:30

She is taking advantage. It goes both ways. I'd say next time bluntly that you're upset and need some extra support or someone to talk to. If she can't help you then you when you've asked directly then you need to distance yourself from her as you need to look after yourself as well

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