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Standing to be an MP and working as an MP - AIBU

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HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 19:11

AIBU to ask if anyone here has experience of standing to be a MP? If you have, AIBU to ask what it’s like?

(Sorry in advance for this very long post!!)

To give (a lot of) background, I’ve always been interested in politics and current affairs.

It was only after I went to university and then graduated, though, that I thought about perhaps standing to be an MP one day. I left university around three years ago, and don’t plan to think about standing to be an MP until at least around fifteen to twenty years from now.

This was partly because of becoming even more interested in politics at university. I’ve also become more interested in how I can get more involved in making my voice heard since the Brexit vote and since hearing about the passing of Jo Cox, the MP.

I read about her life since, and admire her hugely. I’ve also just finished reading a book written about her by her husband, which was absolutely brilliant - I really felt it showed what she was like as a person and as a politician, and I found the way she chose to live by her principles really inspiring).

In the book about Jo Cox, it goes into quite a lot of detail about the challenges that are involved when deciding to stand as an MP - such as deciding where to stand as an MP and how to become known and connected within the local community. It also makes it clear that, after being selected to stand and then elected, working as an MP is incredibly challenging and tough.

I’m unsure though about how much my interest in standing as an MP is coloured by my admiration for Jo Cox and her principles and my own genuine desire to work as an MP (I understand that working as an MP can be a hugely effective way of helping people, and am sure that I want to spend the rest of my career helping people, but am unsure of being an MP is the best way of doing this. I think it would be an incredible opportunity though, and I would regret not standing to be an MP as I feel I could be capable of standing to be an MP one day).

This might sound really minor, especially because I wouldn’t stand until at least fifteen to twenty years’ time, but I think it’s important - one of the things that’s putting me off even considering standing as an MP is the fact that, during my life so far, I’ve moved around quite a lot.

Because of this, I haven’t really lived anywhere long enough to have a proper established base there, and so I don’t really have anywhere that I could claim a local connection to so that constituents would feel like I truly know their area and the issues that it’s affected by.

Would this be a big problem?

Incidentally, one of my colleagues (in my current job in the civil service) stood as a candidate for his home constituency, where he works as a councillor and has lived all of his life, in last year’s election. He worked very hard to get elected, and missed out in the end unfortunately.

The other reason why I wouldn’t think about standing to be selected for a while is because I don’t have any political experience at all at the moment, and very little professional experience (I’m in my mid-twenties, and only started working full-time at the start of this year after working in temporary roles whilst being unsure about what I wanted to do since leaving university). Since leaving university, I worked as a tutor and volunteered with Citizens Advice for several months (which I found hugely interesting and rewarding). Now, I’ve carried on tutoring and also work as a volunteer tutor and separately as a mentor for female students at a local school alongside my job.

The other issue is now thinking about standing as an MP would affect my career ambitions and interests. I currently work as a civil servant - although I’ve only been doing this for less than a year, I really enjoy the work.

This probably sounds very premature, but I would love to carry on working in the civil service for many years to come. As there are so many different opportunities and departments available in the civil service, at the moment, I’d be happy to spend my whole career working for the civil service.

The work done by civil servants is also of course very closely linked to the work done by politicians and members of the government, so it’s within the same area of work that would be done by MPs.

Another thing I’ve been thinking about is that civil servants are required to be politically neutral at work. We are allowed to work voluntarily as councillors, but because of the political neutrality,

I wonder about the logistics (several years down the line) of combining preparing to stand as an MP with working as a civil servant. I’ve thought about this recently, and the only experience I have of this is knowing that my colleague did this - I don’t know how common it is, though.

The other issue is the reality of working as an MP. At the moment, I would be uncomfortable with a very demanding career in the public eye and all of the pressures and scrutiny that comes with it.

For now, I feel that working as a civil servant (doing similar work that benefits people and that contributes to society, but anonymously and not in the public eye) would be a much more suitable career choice for me.

But I don’t want to regret not standing as an MP when I’ve retired and finished full-time work one day.

Any advice please?

Thanks so much in advance for your input and advice - I really appreciate it!

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IrenetheQuaint · 27/12/2018 19:17

Are you involved with a political party at the moment? Taking part in campaigns, canvassing etc at a local level would give you a much clearer idea of what's involved - as of course would working as an MP's assistant (could you take a career break from the civil service to do this for a year or two?).

I think that if you're a middle/upper ranking civil servant you're classed as politically restricted and can't serve as a councillor - but I'm sure you've checked the exact rules on this.

Unescorted · 27/12/2018 19:20

I stood down as a parish councillor when I started in the CS. It would have been a conflict of interest.

To stand as an MP you need to have your Agent register your interest when the election is declared. That would need to be seconded by an other (unrelated) person and you pay a deposit.

You then go out and canvass for all you are worth. As an Independent you will need to find this yourself and get everyone you know to help you. Alternatively you can join a political party and work to get selected as their candidate.

Most politicians have a constituency address. Somewhere they have never lived but we're likely to get selected for.

HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 19:22

Thanks so much for your post, Irene.

I’m not involved with a political party at the moment but would like to be, and will look into this - I’m involved in cross-party groups like Best for Britain and More United, though.

I did consider working as an MP’s assistant for a while after leaving university, and applied for lots of different roles, but I didn’t have the required experience unfortunately. I would like to look into this more, though.

In terms of political neutrality restrictions on civil servants, thank you for flagging this - I have looked into this previously, and as I’m a very junior grade, the restrictions wouldn’t apply.

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madvixen · 27/12/2018 19:22

Ex PPC here and now a civil servant.

Don't touch it with a barge pole, you will get far more satisfaction from being a CS than you will from politics.

I think, if you do go for it, you need to understand a bit more about the process of becoming an MP. It's highly unlikely that you will stand in a constituency that you live in, at least to begin with. You will spend at least one election cycle working in an unwinnable seat to prove your metal before you'll even be considered for a winnable seat. You say 15-20 years time but that means that realistically you would need to start now.
5 years building up a name within the party, volunteering for the party and finding an MP to sponsor you.
2-5 years working an unwinnable seat
5 years working a winnable seat.
Starting today, you could realistically spend the next 15 years aiming to get into Parliament.

You also have to remember that at certain grades within the CS, even standing as a Cllr is not allowed as it breaches the impartiality rules.

I miss politics but I wouldn't go back to it.

HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 19:23

Thanks as well for your post, Unescorted - it’s really helpful.

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HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 19:37

Thanks, madvixen - your post is really insightful.

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Seniorcitizen1 · 27/12/2018 19:47

I would never stand as an MP - their pay is far too low and having to be in London most of the week is a big no no for me

notapizzaeater · 27/12/2018 19:58

Have a look at the jo cox leadership programme, might be a starting point.

HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 20:37

Thanks, notapizzaeater :)

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OvertiredandConfused · 27/12/2018 20:52

I stood for parliament, unsuccessfully, in 2005 and have many friends who are MPs.

Getting on the approved list, then getting selected, let alone actually fighting a seat is all-consuming. I would say that if you think about being a candidate, being a parent and having a career, you can do any two well but, if you try and do three then you are constantly compromising.

I loved being a candidate and was asked by party HQ to stand again but I decided I could make a bigger difference and be a better mother by doing something else. I’m still involved, in a supporting role, in politics and I do miss it sometimes. Then I look at the compromises that my MP friends have to make and I know I made the right choice. I’m now a charity CEO and I know I make a difference but in a different way.

DeusEx · 27/12/2018 20:58

Consider why you want to. Integrity, public service, delivering positive change - you can do that just as well, if not better, in the civil service. Less arse licking in the civil service than in party politics, but then, less likely to have the final say on major changes too. That’s the balance.

HopefulCivilServant · 27/12/2018 22:27

Thanks so much, Overtired and Deus :)

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Pachyderm1 · 27/12/2018 22:39

You absolutely need to get involved with a political party. You will learn a lot about running a campaign that way and you will be able to start building up a network of the people who will get you selected as a candidate.

hypatiently · 27/12/2018 22:43

Would you consider working for an MP?

www.w4mp.org/

I've worked in the HoC and know a couple of people who are now MPs who started out that way. I think seeing it first hand will give you a good idea of whether or not it is something you really want to pursue.

leghairdontcare · 27/12/2018 23:08

I'm a labour party member who is interested in running for elected office in the future. For a Labour member being a union rep is a good avenue into politics and you get to meet people who are supportive. Also there's lots of crossovers in campaigning and experience of sitting on committees etc.

I expect to get selected for council elections in 2022 and hopefully win. I'm working on establishing myself now - thinking about community groups and influencers in the ward that I need to know. This is more important at a local level as people expect to be familiar with their local councillors - less so with MPs.

I wouldn't expect to be in a position to run for MP or AM (I'm in Wales) until 2030 at least.

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