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How to manage this frustration

26 replies

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 07:35

Another Christmas frustration here to add to everyone else’s woes.

I have been laying awake for several hours stewing on this so will be be good to get some perspective.

My side of the family don’t do Christmas in a very jolly way, you come away terribly depressed wondering what the point of it all is, so we often visit at some point over the festive time but try to limit it to once every 5 years on the actual day to try to limit the children’s exposure to hearing about how many people have died this year.....

DH family enjoy Christmas. They do however have a bias towards his sister, favourites are not well concealed. They spend every year with his sister, despite her being married she has never spent it with his side of the family. So if we are to see DH family for Christmas it always is with her too.
Not so bad if all rub along nicely, except she is quite a princess and is now bringing up her own princesses which creates an even starker situation of favourites from his parents. They positively swoon at anything that comes out of the little darlings mouths whereas my children have to work for any attention. For example one of my children won a big award from school at the end of term and on proudly telling the grandparents of their award they were met with the response “lovely, darling cousin sang in the school choir this week, heavenly voice she has”.

DH brother ducked out of spending Christmas with everyone over a decade ago citing to us that he cannot stand the stark inequality and now spends every year with his in laws who he is close to. So they have lovely Christmases each year and his parents don’t even seem to notice his absence. Moaning a few times a year at how close sister in law is with her parents and how they don’t get a look in with their son.

We have tried various scenarios at Christmas, we have gone away at Christmas, spent it alone at home just our little family unit, but each time my husband craves to be with his family.

So I would average once every two years we have all spent it with DH parents, always with the sister and her family in tow.

Most of the time it has involved us hosting, although there has been one year the sister has hosted and a few his parents have.

All we would love however is just to spend Christmas with his parents, we have suggested this would be nice to his parents several times but that notion has been swept aside with a look as if we have mentioned something so absurd it didn’t warrant a response.

So each year we choose between being alone, seeing my depressing parents, or spending it with his parents with the princess sister and her brood.

Each year she will do something outrageous leaving us reeling in her wake and i can’t help but stew over it and whatever I do I cannot shake it

I truly despise Christmas, despite being brought up a Christian and having a high days and holidays relationship with it, I wish Christmas never existed. Each year brings with it the same frustrations, each year I vow we will do something different next year but each year it ends up with DH clinging on to wanting to see his parents and me not really offering up any alternative to float his boat or our children’s so back we go for more.

If only we could just spend it with his parents, just one year. I need the absence of being being able to do that does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with our collective family frustration?

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Urbanbeetler · 26/12/2018 07:41

I think you need to put to bed your narrative of the loving Christmas you’d have with his parents. This isn’t about them, it’s about you really. Create a new narrative - the wonderful Christmases you make for your children at home. One day they will be in the position of choosing where they go for Christmas - don’t end up miserable and hating it all like your parents. Find a new ‘place’ to take your family Christmases. With you at the helm.

rabbitfoodadvocate · 26/12/2018 07:50

Why not just have your own Christmas?? Stat your own traditions that your kids will want to be a part of with their partners in later life?

Or...invite DHs brother over. Lovely!

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 08:43

Thank you yes inviting BIL family is a good idea. I fear we will get backlash from MIL as she is always looking for someone to be the host so if I offer to host BIL and not her she will kick off about not being included

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ivykaty44 · 26/12/2018 08:47

So what did she do that was outrageous this year?

DannyWallace · 26/12/2018 08:51

I understand that you want your nice Christmas, but as an outsider it basically sounds like you're looking for a way to have Christmas with your in-laws without having SIL and her family present. She spends every Christmas with her parents, it's a bit mean to purposely exclude her.
I agree-make your own traditions

WhiteDust · 26/12/2018 08:55

You want Christmas with your In-laws without SIL & the princesses?
You do realise that MIL would spend all day gushing about them in their absence don't you?

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 09:01

Ivykatie44 this year she asked my DD what she would like for Christmas then bought her something completely random and gave her princess daughter the item she had requested.

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TheCherries · 26/12/2018 09:02

DannyWallace we aren’t even suggesting a rotation which is what so many people do with their children, just one year! Can the SIL not spend one year without her parents? I guess not

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TheBaltictriangle · 26/12/2018 09:04

You've got a year to brain wash your sil's husband to want Christmas with his family for once! That's a bit inequal isn't it? Princess sil can't have Christmas with her family every year can she? Some people do do this and the other person is left out.

Invite your brother in law and his family for next Christmas and forget the rest of them.

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 09:04

Whitedust I agree. It is just the children and DH really just want to spend quality time with their DG and I feel sad and frustrated we keep chasing an impossible dream. I just never have a better opportunity to offer them so we keep going back to bejng the hangers on as they want to spend christmas with them

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TheProvincialLady · 26/12/2018 09:06

Your DH is still looking for his mum’s love and approval and sad though it is, it’s never going to happen. Not the way DH wants it. So DH needs to come to terms with that and you both need to stop putting your children in a situation where they are made to feel second best. Is that what you want for your children, for them to have the same issues as their dad? I’m sure neither of you do want that.

BIL has already seen sense and now DH needs to accept reality.

Next Christmas - and every Christmas from
Now on - focus on having a lovely Christmas wth your children in the here and now. And don’t ever let them play second fiddle in a narcissistic fantasy again.

Vivaldi1678 · 26/12/2018 09:06

Why don't you just see them on another day such as Boxing Day and spend actual Christmas Day on your own?

Merryoldgoat · 26/12/2018 09:08

I honestly think that you need to confront these inequalities because they eat you up. It doesn’t have to be aggressive or difficult, just honest.

To be honest MIL, I’m not sure we’ll be coming again at Christmas. I understand that you have you have your favourites and that’s fine, but my children feel marginalised and you obviously prefer DSIL to DH. This isn’t an argument, it’s just obvious and we’d rather not be exposed to it anymore.

In reality it would be better coming from your DH but I sense he wouldn’t confront it.

Lucked · 26/12/2018 09:12

I don’t really get why Christmas with just the three of you is so bad? Why do they have to be spent it with anyone else at all?

It sounds like you feel you need an outside influence to create the perfect jolly Christmas.

WhiteDust · 26/12/2018 10:07

I just never have a better opportunity to offer them so we keep going back to bejng the hangers on as they want to spend christmas with them

You'll never compete with the princesses so don't even try.
Do your own thing at Christmas and arrange for the GP to come to you before Christmas for a get together.

Your DH may feel better doing his own thing on Christmas Day having seen his parents beforehand.

RandomMess · 26/12/2018 10:41

Your DH needs therapy to accept his DP aren't interested- why does he keep going back to suffer the hurt and humiliation every year??? Fix that and you don't have a problem anymore!!!

Ask BIL if he would consider coming to yours next year but they may not want to give up their tradition.

We had home alone this year and we have made a point of making it "special" and a bit different and it's worked.

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 10:49

Lucked yes you are right we would like to share in a jolly Christmas with others

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TheProvincialLady · 26/12/2018 10:50

You can still do that by inviting friends. You can’t make other people value you and your children, unfortunately.

AnyOldPrion · 26/12/2018 10:52

Each year brings with it the same frustrations, each year I vow we will do something different next year but each year it ends up with DH clinging on to wanting to see his parents and me not really offering up any alternative to float his boat or our children’s so back we go for more.

You have to learn which things you can control and which you can’t. You can’t control DH’s parents or sister and you recognise the situation is damaging to your children. So the obvious answer is to offer up a Christmas that will float DH’s boat more than spending it with his parents.

What do they do that’s special? Surely you can do some things all pf you would enjoy. Don’t cook? M&S do great food. There are ways round everything. Go for it and have the best Christmas you can every year.

Zwischenwasser · 26/12/2018 10:55

Book a Christmas break at butlins next year and balls to the lot of them.

Stop chasing the perfect family Christmas. It ain’t gonna happen.

AnyOldPrion · 26/12/2018 11:04

Oh and why can’t DH recreate some of the things he loves for your children at home?

Out of interest, does DH actually enjoy Christmas? Does he notice the inequalities?

StrawberrySquash · 26/12/2018 11:15

Seems like DH is keeping on chasing a fantasy of a Christmas he's not going to get. And you can't really reasonably kick out princess SIL from seeing her own parents. But of PIL and SIL have each other, seems like you three and BIL plus family could also be a nice unit if you all fancy it. No one's being left out. I think it's time to start to build the Christmas you want with the elements which actually exist, not the elements you wish existed. Fantasy Christmases are just that.

TheCherries · 26/12/2018 13:34

The crux of the matter I think is my DH craves the time and affection from his parents. For some reason they don’t feel the need of it even though he sondesperately craves and needs it. When we spend time with his parents on our own we have such a lovely time. I guess he goes in to each Christmas hoping.

No other Christmas will suit him sadly.

Each year I have the same conversation with him. It is painful but I guess it is going to have to be more forceful this time. I can’t spend further years going through this pain of Christmas.

For me I just want Christmas to disappear. I would sooner it didn’t exist.

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RandomMess · 26/12/2018 13:44

He would be better of having a "2nd Christmas" with just them on a different day. Just his parents invited exchange your gifts then, play games etc. Perhaps 29/30th?

ItWentDownMyHeartHole · 26/12/2018 14:14

I realise there are hurt feelings here but just reading your original post and further replies makes me feel queasy. How old are you both? Your DH’s parents favour his sister and her children. Creeping around and trying to seperate the two families over Christmas so that you get your shot is frankly a bit pathetic. Ask your husband to get some therapy - no doubt they’ll gently persuade him to accept the unfairness (because as rational adults you HAVE to see it’s unchangeable) and then you can Christmas as adults. By doing what makes you and your children happy.
You’re an enabler. You need to tell your husband to get a grip. As unfair as his parents are what is worse is his dragging your kids into it.

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