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Myheartbelongsto · 21/12/2018 20:24

Not AIBU, posting for traffic.

Received my smear test results today, abnormal, p6 HAIL Severe dyskaryosis. Probably missing spelled that.

I haven't had a smear test in a long time so was expecting it to be abnormal.

I have been referred for a colposcopy&oq.

Anyone else had similar results and everything turned out OK?

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Bestwestpest · 21/12/2018 22:34

I've had this in 2015, it was CIN3. CIN3 are abnormal cells that could potentially become cancerous. I had LLETZ treatment to remove and all was fine. Try not to worry Flowers

arranbubonicplague · 21/12/2018 22:40

Seconding the PPs who've mentioned Jo's Trust as a good source of information.

www.jostrust.org.uk/about-cervical-cancer/cervical-screening-smear-test-and-abnormal-cells/abnormal-cervical-screening-results/results-cervical-screening-test

chickhonhoneybabe · 21/12/2018 23:05

The results of the smear is categorised/graded using difference grading/categorising systems. p6 and HSIL all mean severe dysplasia/Dyskaryosis. P7 HSIL would be some cancerous cells found.

If abnormal cells are found a colposcopy is carried out and the cells/lining of the cervix will be categorised using CIN grades. Therefore the CIN grade won’t be known until the coloscopy has been done.

CIN Grades
Abnormal cells found on the surface of a woman’s cervix are referred to as Cervical Intra-epithelial Neoplasia (CIN). CIN is divided into three classifications, used to describe how far these abnormal cells have developed in the surface layer of the cervix. The changes in cells can be graded as CIN 1, CIN 2 or CIN 3. The higher the grade, the greater surface area of the cervix is affected by abnormal cells – below we outline the different CIN grades and what they mean.

www.macmillan.org.uk/information-and-support/diagnosing/how-cancers-are-diagnosed/cervical-screening/cin.html

chickhonhoneybabe · 21/12/2018 23:10

I know it’s easier said than done but try not to worry until you’ve had the coloscooy and know the CIN grade.

The CIN 1 grade is used to describe mild dyskaryosis, which signifies mild changes to the cervical cells. This affects only one-third of the cervical surface area. These changes definitely do not signify cancer and in the majority of cases will not cause cancer in the future. CIN1 usually corresponds to infection with Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) and will often resolve by itself within six months. Usually, no treatment is required for an abnormal smear showing only mild dyskaryosis. However, a repeat smear test after six months is necessary to monitor changes.

A CIN 2 grade refers to two-thirds of the thickness of the surface layer of the cervix showing cell changes. It is used to describe moderate dyskaryosis and again, does not mean cancer. A colposcopy should be carried out when moderate dyskaryosis is detected and following this, treatment may be required to remove the abnormal cells.

CIN 3 refers to severe dyskaryosis and affects the full thickness of the cervix surface. Even with this result, it is unlikely that a woman already has cervical cancer. However, it is important to treat severe dyskaryosis as soon as the changes are detected. Treatment is used to remove the abnormal area so that these cells do not develop into cancer in the future.

www.londonwomenscentre.co.uk/conditions/dyskaryosis

mrss2018 · 21/12/2018 23:13

I had the same result a few months ago, went for the colposcopy- they prepared me for treatment on the spot- the results of the colposcopy were less severe than the smear so they did a biopsy. My changes were mild in the end and I'm going back for a follow up in 6 months- try not to worry too much (easier said than done!) the cells minor or severe are pre cancerous and the main thing is you had your smear they found the abnormal cells and they can be treated! Thanks

chickhonhoneybabe · 21/12/2018 23:13

I mean Colposcopy obviously 🤦🏼‍♀️

chickhonhoneybabe · 21/12/2018 23:19

So in answer to your question just trying to work out if CIN3 is the same as HSIL Severe dyskaryosis

No CIN3 isn’t the same as you won’t knkw the CIN grade until the colposcopy has been done.

olivesnutsandcheese · 21/12/2018 23:24

I had this, abnormal smear, CIN3. Went quite soon to the hospital for Colposcopy. Had a Lletz loop treatment. Repeat Colposcopy every 3 then 6 months for 18 months then smear every year and now back to 3 yearly. Just had all clear again.
It's really ok. Treatment is uncomfortable but not horrendous. High success rate. Try not to worry, this is whole point of smear tests, to pick up on these dodgy cells before they get dodgier

Myheartbelongsto · 21/12/2018 23:27

Thank you very much for the information, it helps me to understand it.

I was asking the doctor today if they found pre cancerous cells I would have a different result than high grade changes and hsil severe dyskaryosis and she said I'd have to wait until colposcopy.

As I haven't had a smear in a very long time I'm panicking that the colposcopy&oq is going to uncover something more sinister.

The waiting for an appointment in the new year is going to drive me around the bend.

It's 3 months since my smear and I hope there haven't been anymore changes.

I need too try and calm down!

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Clunky · 21/12/2018 23:28

Hey op, I'm sorry you're going through this. I'm sorry I don't know what the jargon means so can't help with that. I had my first smear a few years ago, got a call back that I had abnormal cells and needed checking ASAP. Went for colposcopy, they decided cells were fine, no need for biopsy etc. It was such a relief because I had gone through hell thinking the worse. 2 years later, went for another smear and got the dreaded call again and I was in bits. Had the biopsy that time and I was told everything was fine. Iv had 2 smears since and have been told everything is OK.
I understand how you must be feeling now and it's horrible. Google will only mess your mind up more right now. Stay strong and it's very likely everything will be fine.

Ozziewozzie · 21/12/2018 23:50

I was seen soon after too. It’s dibthey can treat you before it progresses to anything more serious.
I completely understand how you feel having 3 children to care for. It’s an awful thought.
Thank goodness they will see you quickly, although not quick enough for your anxiety levels!

Myheartbelongsto · 22/12/2018 00:14

Ozzie I wish I could go right now.

I have to ring the hospital on Thursday and I'm going to beg the receptionist to get me in quick.

I just cannot cope with this news today.

I am so angry with myself for not going sooner.

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Bestwestpest · 22/12/2018 00:36

The cells they've found are pre-cancerous - this means that they COULD potentially turn cancerous, not that they are almost cancerous. Hope you get it sorted soon Flowers

Rumblingtum · 22/12/2018 07:22

I had an abnormal smear about 8 years ago. Just had my 4th baby. The nurse who did the smear noticed my cervix looked 'irritated'. Smear results came back CIN 3 within about 3 days. Its terrifying, they put in information leaflets using the C word. I imagined the worst and spoke to some amazing staff. Had a colposcopy withing 10 days or so. They did the Lletz and took some punch biopsies. Smears all clear since and the biopsies showed 'healing cells' probably caused by my traumatic birth. It is terrifying, but be reassured it's a screen not a diagnosis and it takes a long time for anything nasty to develop. My bad news results were with me in days. I'd be reassured that yours were less urgent.

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