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AIBU to think my STBXH was putting our DD at risk here?

31 replies

Lilifer · 19/12/2018 15:32

My stbxh and I were taking our 16year old dd to the nearest city for an awards ceremony where she was picking up a prize for an Academic achievement at GCSE.

Our divorce is not amicable, but nor are we at each others throats, so the hour long drive to the city was a little bit tense at times but alright. I had wanted to take DD a few hours earlier to fit in a bit of shopping before the awards ceremony but stbxh really wanted us all to go together and insisted on driving us so I relented.

At one stage in the journey he was doing nearly 80mph on a dual carriageway and proceeded to take both his hands off the wheel in order to take his mobile phone from its holder and open up compartment behind the gear stick and start fumbling around trying to connect the phone to a car charging cable. I asked him to please ask me to do something like that rather than take his hands off the wheel at 80mph. He said ok fine and the rest of the journey went ok. He has form for speeding and trying to do multiple things while driving at high speed like use mobile, open crisps or sweets or fiddling with the radio, im not a particularily good passenger so i try to not say anything as it usually ends in a row but i could not let that go as i felt it was really risky.

When we got to the city centre car park he reversed in to a space. We all got out and i was distracted getting my coat and bag out of the car, stbxh said the front of his car was sticking out too far and he was going to reverse it back further. There was a car right behind us parked and about a metre between them and he wanted to back his car right up to the other car as close as possible. He got in to the car and started to reverse but I was horrified to see my dd standing between the two cars in the small space as stbxh reversed up to her. I said to her quite sharply to move out of the way and she said but Daddy told me to stand here...I asked her to move again and told her she should never stand behind a reversing car so close to it.

I am prob v sensitive to the risks of this because last summer a driver reversed out of a space over the heel and side of my foot and i hadnt seen anyone in the driver seat because unknown to me it was a left hand drive so it was pretty scarey and painful.

stbxh got out of car and i said to him I told dd to move out of the way as you shouldnt stand between a reversing car and another car esp one so close and he looked at me scornfully and said "FFS i asked her to stand there because my rear sensor beeper is way too sensitive and i needed her there to drive up to she's fine arent u pet" my dd just looked really cross and fed up, stbxh dismissed me totally and made out like i was hysterical over nothing, and then my dd told me later on that after i had left them to go to another shop stbxh had kept on saying to her "youre fine arent you pet, your mother was making a fuss about nothing "etc which annoyed dd.

AIBU to think this was a bloody stupid thing for him to tell dd or any child to do for that matter and also that he was BU to be going on about it behind my back and upsetting my dd on what should have been a nice occasion? I wish now that i had just done what i wanted to do which was to take dd to the city earlier to do our shopping and to meet up with stbxh at the venue where the award was taking place.

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Pachyderm1 · 19/12/2018 16:17

He sounds like a twat, although I also think that if your dd is GCSE aged she’s probably able to not get run over in the circumstances you described. I wouldn’t have made a thing of it, but I don’t blame you for not being impressed by your arsey ex.

BertrandRussell · 19/12/2018 16:21

She’s 16.

BertrandRussell · 19/12/2018 16:22

But the business with the phone is unforgivable.

Firesuit · 19/12/2018 16:26

Using sensors when parking makes no sense to me as I find them utterly useless. My car has 360 degree sensors and a visual display showing how far you from objects, but each degree of "farness" corresponds to one foot, which are distances I can judge almost without looking. A parking aide that would tell me whether I'm one to seven inches away from touching something would actually be useful.

That unhelpful rant aside, he doesn't sound like he's much good at parking if he needs help to do it.

Imalittleelf · 19/12/2018 16:27

It is illegal to use a phone whole driving for a reason...

The reversing thing I get because if his foot slipped he would have crushed her between the 2 cars. It is dangerous.

I had an ex who was loading a boot and someone left the handbrake off their car behind... his knees were trapped and has caused him irreparable damage

hellhavenofury · 19/12/2018 16:30

She is 16 not 5! I really don't think he was going to run over his daughter FGS! Snowflake...

SummerGems · 19/12/2018 16:31

You’re getting divorced, it’s inevitable that you are going to irritate each other.

And your daughter is sixteen not a baby. I don’t understand why she would be so adamant that her dad had told her to stand somewhere if she thought she was at risk...

Sounds like you’re posting this here for validation that he’s a twat. It doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, you’re getting divorced so that’s all that counts for you.

And you both need to stop using your daughter as the battleground between you.

Stickerrocks · 19/12/2018 16:32

Your DD was probably mortified at the way the pair of you were carrying on. My 16y.o. would have been. he shouldn't have been doing gymnastics with a mobile whilst driving at 80 mph, but my Dad insists on "helping" me park like that and it's very common. Surely your DD is bright enough to be able to hop out of the way if he got too close? If not, you need to work on developing her common sense.

BadPolicy · 19/12/2018 16:33

It's not that unusual to stand behind a car to help someone reverse, I think your accident is clouding your judgement.

CarolDanvers · 19/12/2018 16:40

"Snowflake"

Do people really still really use this term to dismiss people's concerns, without realising how cliched and stupid they sound?

Feefeetrixabelle · 19/12/2018 16:50

I think at 16 she’s not a child anymore. I also think it’s best that you don’t do anymore journeys or similar things together again. He’s a stbexh for a reason.

7yo7yo · 19/12/2018 16:53

When you wanted to go shopping with Dd first and he insisted you go and a family why did you allow that? Why didn’t you say no?
Being amicable doesn’t mean being a walk over (sorry I know your op wasn’t about that).

Wordthe · 19/12/2018 16:54

the snowflake taunt was unnecessary and out of place

OP is feeling upset and looking for some help to look at the situation through more objective eyes

wobytide · 19/12/2018 17:02

I am prob v sensitive

This completely. Stop trying to bring your feelings about the divorce into the life you would have accepted previously.

You admit he did all of that previously, and you knew it, but let both yourself and your Daughter get in the car so it wasn't that important to you before the journey or previously, yet it suddenly is now you are divorcing.

RightOcciputAnterior · 19/12/2018 17:20

The phone thing was unwise - but it's helpful that he stopped when you asked him to.

You have to trust a 16-year-old to make sensible judgements in car parks, though. It sounds like you're looking to find fault with your ex, and are babying DD - and involving her in the crossfire - in the process.

You're not friends any more - you're divorcing. It evidently didn't work for you and your ex to travel together. Next time, travel separately, and minimise your contact with him.

Cherries101 · 19/12/2018 17:27

You were being an idiot. He didn’t use his phone, he moved it out the way while driving. And your dd is 16 and without SEN. She should be quite capable of not getting run over while your DH is parking. If you can’t be civil with your ex then don’t be around him— if you continue to paint yourself as the bad guy like this you’ll lose your dd.

5foot5 · 19/12/2018 17:27

He was a twat over the phone thing but I don't see the reversing thing as a biggy. Sometimes, in very tight parking situations, I have stood at the back of the car to tap it when it is close to whatever is behind. Your DD at 16 is presumably old enough to make a judgement about that.

LittleScottieDog · 19/12/2018 17:32

I definitely would never stand behind a reversing car if there was an immovable object behind me. What if his foot had slipped on the accelerator? I wouldn't want to risk injury, especially when you can guide someone from the side. The phone thing is idiotic too.

However, your poor daughter having one or the other of you trying to get one over the other by asking her what she thinks. She was probably very embarrassed.

LettuceP · 19/12/2018 17:44

I think the reversing thing is awful! You don't get someone to stand behind a reversing car whatever age they are. What a complete idiot.

Lilifer · 20/12/2018 00:49

Thanks for replies

I still think it was stupid to get her to stand right in between the two cars, one stationery one reversing.

He has always driven over the speed limit and his using of phone at the wheel and constant fiddling with Phone chargers and radios and food has caused rows between us as he quite frequently drives with one or no hands on the heel at 80mph on motorway

I gave in and agreed for us all to go in one car as he was hugely difficult about me going a few hours earlier a to take her to the xmas markets and through the shops. Dd didn't want him coming either but I relented as they have a strained relationship and I want to do whatever I can to help it improve, because he told me I was selfish for wanting to go shopping with her on our own.

I will in future make my own travel Plans .

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Lilifer · 20/12/2018 09:29

I'm also annoyed that he talked again to my dd about it behind my back as she has told me that several times he's talked about me to her and she doesn't like it as it makes her feel he is trying to get her to take his side .

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Originallymeonly · 20/12/2018 09:34

I always always get told I'm being selfish if I don't do what my ex wants me to do. It's projection on his part.

bigredmachine · 20/12/2018 11:20

The driving was terrible, but you overreacted about the parking. Your poor daughter getting caught in the middle of your issues with your ex. Grim.

Feefeetrixabelle · 20/12/2018 11:27

Your not responsible for his relationship with your daughter. At 16 she’s responsible for that just as much as he is. If his behaviour pushes her away then that’s on him.

Forced relationships are strained. At 16 it’s normal to be distant from one or both or your parents especially in cases of divorce. You just have to give them space to figure it out.

You need to tell your daughter that you don’t mind if she wants to talk to your dad about you. It’s fine for her to do so. But if he is saying things that are making her uncomfortable she is well within her rights to ask him to stop or to ask a different relative (aunt,uncle,gran) to tell him to pack it the fuck in.

At 16 the events left to share were you have to be side by side and in agreement are graduation and wedding days. Everything else can be easily split and done on your daughters behest

Possumfish · 20/12/2018 11:38

The phone In The car isn't good. But he stopped when you asked. But the parking thing is fine....she's 16....not 6. She was probably mortified about how you carried on. I would have been at her age. And it's normal to have someone help you park by standing behind ....

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