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To apply for a jr role when being rejected for the sr version?

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 07:44

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Rejected for more senior role, but just saw they have a jr role available1
Today 07:41 Needadoughnut

Thursday I had a great interview, they called me a great candidate and what not.
This was the feedback:
We have now come to a decision and I’m sorry to say that we decided to appoint another applicant. It was a tough decision to make. It was clear that you had loads of great experience to bring to the role, and that you would be a strong addition to the team. But we had to base the decision on our understanding of the role, and another applicant had work experience that was more closely aligned to the day to day elements of the AM role that we couldn’t ignore that.

Would it be silly to ask to be considered for the jr role? I was going to email back.
saying that I really loved them as an agency and really saw myself working there.

From the interview and my experience (I used to have a Sr role) so even the other role was a "downgrade", obviously I don't think that as otherwise I wouldn't have applied. the difference in salary is 4k.

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steff13 · 18/12/2018 07:54

Is the application period for the junior role closed? I'd just apply.

topcat2014 · 18/12/2018 07:56

I would look elsewhere. Even if you get the junior role, you will always feel 'beneath' it, and will actually come to resent it. Your manager (who got the job you were going for) will get to know you applied as well, and it just becomes awkward.

Good luck.

EmUntitled · 18/12/2018 07:56

I don't think it could hurt, if a junior position is available. You would probably have to go through the application and interview process again though, to make it fair to other candidates.

GaryBaldbiscuit · 18/12/2018 07:58

no, and the senior person wont trust you not to be eyeing up their job. and i assume you will be over qualified. nobody likes an over qualified person

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 07:59

Yes, I don't think she'd interview me again. (She's seen me.twice and there's nothing else to add). The role.has been open for only 3 days, hopefully she could make an exception. When I interviewed she called me a "strong" candidate.

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joopy79 · 18/12/2018 08:03

Go for it, if you don't you will regret it.

JustMuddlingOn · 18/12/2018 08:03

I would definitely do it. I got offered a downgraded role a year ago when applying for a job and seriously considered not taking it. So glad I did yoas I have since had two promotions and got the job above what I originally applied for. If I hadn't taken the original role I didn't want I wouldn't have been there for them to see my work and realise their mistake. You never know when another promotion will come up and you'll be well placed for it even if you have to do a lower job for a while. If you can afford it do it.

Valasca · 18/12/2018 08:03

No.

They didn’t say you weren’t qualified so you’d be overqualified for the junior role and they’d wonder about your ambitions/intentions.

Either you had low ones and didn’t have confidence in your own abilities (so they’d think the confidence you may have displayed at interview was an act) or they might wonder why.... are you going to try to undermine the newly hired person?

It’s just a situation no sane HR person would orchestrate.

Unless I’m misunderstanding and this is an internal process and you have a proven record at the company already?

Valasca · 18/12/2018 08:06

Also? They most likely knew about the junior vacancy while you’re being interviewed. They would have put out feelers asking if you might consider taking on a role with slightly less seniority, if one did come up during your interview.

Bunnybigears · 18/12/2018 08:07

You might aa well apply but dont be suprised if ypu get rejected.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 08:07

No, not an internal role. Where I live there aren't many jobs in my field and this tangentially is in it. So I think she'd understand my reasoning behind it. I was going to reply to be considered for any other roles in the future as I loved the agency (and her as a boss) . I only have the certainty that there is a jr role available

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 08:10

@valasca that's what I think too. However from the interview it was very obvious that I came from some "high flying" job so that's what makes me.think I wouldn't be interested, so why even bother.

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AnnaBegins · 18/12/2018 08:22

I did exactly this! Was told I wasn't quite ready for the senior role so I applied for the junior role. I actually then got invited to interview for the next senior role too and got it, partially due to enthusiasm and persistence! Good luck.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 08:27

I was pretty sure I was runner up for the other role. And she did mention that a jr role.would have more time to "get to know the system". That was the only mention about it. I have absolutely nothing to lose.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 08:54

Well now I know why she didn't.... The start date for the other role is in March! Common sense would say I wouldn't wait that long.

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GaryBaldbiscuit · 18/12/2018 09:06

what will you do?

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 09:18

I'm going to ask her about it. Chances are I'll still be unemployed by then.

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ShalomJackie · 18/12/2018 09:24

Nothing to lose by asking whether they would be prepared to consider you for the other role.

They may however consider you overqualified and that you would jump ship if something better/more suited to your experience came up. Or they may think great someone with bags of experience prepared to work cheaply for us.

Nothing to lose by asking.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 09:49

I've sent that email asking to be considered. I have a hunch she'll say no. I did point out that starting with a jr role would mean that I can bridge my "experience gap" in a fairly efficient way. I also mentioned that the one thing I took out of our meetings was that I'd love to work there

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ShartGoblin · 18/12/2018 09:54

My advice to myself every time I ask questions like this: Plenty of people in your life will say no to you. Don't be one of them.

Good on you for sending the email, hopefully they recognise that you really want to work for them. If they don't then you haven't lost anything.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 10:09

Exactly Goblin I've already have a no, a second one won't make much difference.

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peakSafeSpace · 18/12/2018 11:07

I would.

I've done similar and got the junior role. It was a side step in terms of the role (Jr to Jr, to use your example) but in a better company so worth it.

What does the 4k mean to you? Is it a lot of money? Could you find a better-paid role elsewhere and would you take it despite really wanting to work for this company.

In theory, I don't see why not but there are a few questions only you can answer.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 11:41

Is more that they will say "no" rather than me saying no. I'm unemployed and similar jobs are very hard to find.

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Needadoughnut · 18/12/2018 16:02

Update the jr role was a glitch :/

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blueshoes · 18/12/2018 23:37

I don't get it. How can the junior role be a glitch if the interviewer mentioned it at the interview?

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