To ask which Brexit we voted for?

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If we don't need a second referendum, AIBU to ask which Brexit did we vote for?

During the run up to the 2016 referendum, I remember a Lord Somebody from UKIP saying a reason to vote Leave was the wealth options available to us afterwards. Now our politicians are stuck, but there are newspapers howling that a second referendum would be undemocratic (they could not be more wrong - see my final thought below).

I accept the original result, but I am fed up of being told that the route forward is obvious by Brexiteers when it's clearly not.

One last thing: the precedent is that constitutional change has to go back to the people in some way. My immediate thought after hearing the result of the referendum was that the deal done would have to do one of three things. For Maastricht there were three options for ratification: the gold standard was a referendum and the weaselly, cheaty way was putting it to Parliament. The middle way was to wrap it up in the party manifestos for the 1992 general election and Maastricht went through on the basis that we had voted on those. I'm still staggered Gina Miller etc had to fight for us even to have the weasel option this time. This is an important protection against dictatorship otherwise what's to stop a future Mussolini or Trump type from just changing the constitution as they feel like, e.g. ending free elections.

So if we don't need another vote, which Brexit did we choose?

The cake and eat it Brexit.

The one based on the (untrue) claims of the infamous double decker bus?

I chose no Brexit. Failing that, we need the softest possible Brexit, to protect jobs and our security. It won't satisfy anyone, but all the posters who come on here howling about how they want to leave right now, FFS!! With no deal! etc, need to understand that the choice of 37% of the electorate doesn't give you a mandate to fuck about and do whatever you want.

The UK has a flexible uncodified constitution. It can be changed at whim by any ruling party. The last such change was the adoption of fixed parliaments.

UK voted for a withdrawal from the EU (of course, the result is merely advisory under UK law, but I'll leave that aside for now). The task for gov't is to now do this. Another vote pre-withdrawal would be undemocratic. It'd be like having an election then demanding a second election before the winning government had formed. We can't keep re-voting until the 'desired' result is gained.
The referendum that was held wasn't for remain vs lets-have-a-look-again-when-we-know-more. It was in or out. Out won. Whether this was due to misinformation, or anything else isn't relevant (the same could be said for any election ever).

Adding constitutional change to a manifesto is not a great idea. What if you like Party A's stance on the reform, but hate everything else they stand for? Or what if, like reality, all the parties are horrendously internally divided on the issue? In these instance, a referendum provides clarity.

The one where we keep the bullying Europe from our doors, the one that stops all immigration and the UK population is magically trained to do all the jobs that the immigrants currently do for us and where we are suddenly giving huge sums of money to policing, NHS, etc. Also houses have magically emptied of the immigrants who have suddenly decided to go home so that the natives all have somewhere affordable to live.

Obviously if you believe any of that you are deluded.

@AdamNichol I accept the result which was 'we don't wish to remain in the EU'. It did not say what we wish to do instead.

Some who want to leave are under the belief that anyone who suggests a second referendum wants to use it as a way back to remain.

This is just a distraction from choosing how to leave and is possibly holding back Brexit. I think there's a strong possibility May will extend the deadline on Article 50 rather than risk a crash out. So rather than trying to blame remainers for a situation they didn't create, what achievable Brexit did we vote for first time round?

I feel like nobody knows what they actually voted for as people still don't really know the actual consequences. There were lies told on both sides.

I think a lot of people will have voted based on misconceptions and false claims for hope of a "Better Britain". Things which won't be happening anyway.

Of course I don't know shit and this is just what I'm gathering from reading around.

But I do like the buying a house analogy, you wouldn't stink with it if you put in an offer and then found it was riddled with hidden problems.

Stick