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AIBU?

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Job offer withdrawn

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MassiveMug · 15/12/2018 21:11

Not an aibu, just gutted and want to rant.

How lovely to receive the letter on a Saturday lunchtime to say my offer of employment has been withdrawn because I didn’t meet the requirements in their test. Fair enough but I did the test 2 pissing weeks ago and it gives you the results instantly. Since then they have been in touch asking me for xy and z. Just feel both gutted and annoyed!

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RebelWitchFace · 16/12/2018 11:33

you can’t just wake up one day after 11 years and decide to be a TA

I did just that and I'm pretty damn good at my job too.

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MassiveMug · 16/12/2018 11:39

i will bet money something’s thrown up in your background checks nope, my DBS is all clear, thank you!

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TSSDNCOP · 16/12/2018 11:41

I was actually thinking about your references OP.

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MassiveMug · 16/12/2018 11:46

They only had one reference back and it was from my neighbour who I get on very well with so I can’t see that being it.

Anyway, shit happens! Onwards and upwards. Enjoy Xmas and start applying again in the new year

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/12/2018 11:48

Hmm, I’d kind of forgotten how to times mixed fractions

Yes, it's one of the harder ones isn't it? But competency in the many other areas should carry most through, especially since the pass level seems to be just 60% in literacy and 63% in maths

After completing both tests that seems worryingly low to me, so I can only hope they know what they're doing overall when it comes to the necessary standards

Neverunderfed · 16/12/2018 11:52

I am a qualified teacher and would have no clue how to times mixed fractions. 😂 And when I was a TA (having never worked in education before) I didn't have to do it either.

Irishgal123 · 16/12/2018 11:55

@Massivemug I never said you were not capable... that sentence didn’t come across the way I meant sorry. What I meant was there’s training to complete etc. I’m sure you’ll get there.

brizzledrizzle · 16/12/2018 11:57

Two references is standard so I think they have been told that one isn't enough for safer recruitment standards.

brizzledrizzle · 16/12/2018 12:01

I am a qualified teacher and would have no clue how to times mixed fractions. 😂 And when I was a TA (having never worked in education before) I didn't have to do it either.

What year groups have you worked in?

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:09

I think it's really awful to offer someone a job and then take the offer away. It's a breach of a verbal contract isn't it?
What happens if you've signed off the dole or given your notice in your current job?
Very rude behaviour imo.

Neverunderfed · 16/12/2018 12:15

I was secondary, year 7 up to 11 for my main subject and 6th form for me secondary one.

NameChangeOhNameChange1 · 16/12/2018 12:16

Surely all adults (excluding those with additional needs of course) should be able to complete basic maths and English tests?

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:21

"Surely all adults (excluding those with additional needs of course) should be able to complete basic maths and English tests?"

Why? In real life you can use calculators and spellchecks.

I've got two degrees and I don't think I could do those tests, having had a quick glance at the practice ones.

Look at the question below, for example. In my opinion, all but the last option could be correct, although I'd probably choose option 2 as the most likely to be correct.

Other members of the Governing Body and I __
will hope to attend
hope to attend
will be hoping to attend
hoping to attend

Twickerhun · 16/12/2018 12:21

I would call hr yes (and I work in hr). Better to ask and se if they are willing to tell you anything than speculate. And good to give feedback to them too - if you turned down another offer they need to know that you’ve lost out on potential income because of their procedures (grounds for a complaint I think).

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:24

I think you should make an official complaint. It's not on that they made you spend time doing online training for them and that you turned down another job, only to have changed their mind after making the offer.

RebelWitchFace · 16/12/2018 12:24

@NameChangeOhNameChange1 a basic test, technicality yes.
However there have been a lot of changes and new terms added in in the past years. Someone that hasn't been in school for quite a while might be unfamiliar with the terms, so struggle with the question but actually know the answer if it was phrased differently.
There also might be things that you learned years ago and haven't used since, or learned it using a different method. A lot of people would struggle to remember the right way to do it and in a timely manner too.

silvercuckoo · 16/12/2018 12:37

Look at the question below, for example. In my opinion, all but the last option could be correct, although I'd probably choose option 2 as the most likely to be correct.

Are you a native speaker? I am not (and not at all fluent in English), but I cannot see where the problem with this particular question is. Unless "I'm loving it" became mainstream.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/12/2018 12:38

I think it's really awful to offer someone a job and then take the offer away. It's a breach of a verbal contract isn't it?

I imagine that depends on what the offer letter said. IME it's pretty normal to include something like "subject to satisfactory references / medical / whatever" and if that was the case they'll be covered

wibblywobblyfish · 16/12/2018 12:39

I work in recruitment / compliance within education. A reference from a neighbour wouldn't be acceptable, always has to be from previous employers or in the case of a first employment, it can come from your college tutor / uni. This does cause problems and we have withdrawn employment offers where we haven't been able to secure references.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:40

Silver - yes, I'm a native speaker (technically not as Welsh is my first language, but I'm bilingual). Although I think option 2 is the most likely, I also see no problem with options 1 and 3 e.g.

"Other members of the Governing Body and I will be hoping to attend!"

Let me know where I'm going wrong!

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:42

"I work in recruitment / compliance within education. A reference from a neighbour wouldn't be acceptable"

It depends. Some recruits will accept a character reference. I presume OP doesn't have a recent previous employer. If that is the issue, the employer here should say so and give OP a chance to secure the kind of reference they want.

silvercuckoo · 16/12/2018 12:51

Let me know where I'm going wrong!
I thought stative verbs like hope, believe, love etc. should not be used in the continuous form, at least in the formal speech (and "members of the Governing Body" were introduced specifically to highlight the formal context). But happy to be corrected!

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:55

*recruiters

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2018 12:59

silver, you sound like you know what you're talking about, but it's not something I've ever heard. Never heard of stative verbs either. Grammar wasn't taught when I was at school in the 80s and what grammar I do know I learnt through learning foreign languages. I definitely wouldn't think that was a basic question.

Ceilingrose · 16/12/2018 16:12

It isn't reasonable for them to with draw the offer, because they weren't initially bothered with the slightly low mark, and you sign a contract.

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