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To think Brexiteers have reached a new low?

36 replies

LadyGregorysToothbrush · 07/12/2018 13:46

In threatening Ireland with food shortages as a means of trying to get a “better deal” from the EU?

Yes, this is ex-Cabinet minister Priti Patel speaking at a Brexit Central event last night link here.

Have these people no shame? No historical awareness? Even if this were possible, is this what Brexiteers want for the U.K. - a bully state, starving its neighbours into submission?

Not to mention absolutely trashing an Anglo-Irish relationship that took decades of painstaking careful and respectful diplomacy to build up. And alienating a close neighbour and friend who could have been the most valuable ally and advocate for the U.K. inside the EU27.

I’m just despairing at this. Every day I think a new low in xenophobia and anti-Irish sentiment has been reached, and it just keeps getting worse.

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GrammarTeacher · 08/12/2018 09:21

I am in her constituency. I have never voted for her. In this part of my county it really doesn't matter who they put up a Tory will get in (the numbers are depressing, tactical voting wouldn't achieve her removal). There are an awful lot of unthinking voters out there who just vote for a party because that's what they've always done and don't look into the individual policies and voting records of their MP. Hers is beyond awful.
However, please don't blame all her constituents. I do still trundle out every election and try to do my bit.
We may see some changes locally when they do the next boundary changes. That is going to be very interesting for the local Tories.

GrammarTeacher · 08/12/2018 09:34

I have just written to her I doubt I'll get a reply

Ifwisheswereunicorns · 08/12/2018 09:48

The whole sad affair just needs to be stopped and in the future remembered as a pitiful, embarrassing waste of two years where the government took their eyes off both bigger and everyday issues. That's that fact that we're facing. If it's stopped now then I think we can just about scrape it back. If it carries on, God only knows. A large percentage of people voted to leave because of a campaign of lies. It can't keep being said that "it's the will of the people" when those people can now see the truth. I know some leave voters and I just can't begin to fathom their twisted views in the first place, but now they see that what they thought was going to happen is now not going to happen, their views have changed.

Unity is a good thing. Alienation is not.

LaurieMarlow · 08/12/2018 10:10

She is just reflecting the views of her and perhaps the wider UK electorate?

She may well be. And what does that say about the UK?

ForalltheSaints · 08/12/2018 10:16

LaurieMarlow it may not be the majority of the electorate but there is still some anti-Irish sentiment.

As for Priti Patel reflecting Brexiteers views, most of them do not care about suffering and hardship much nearer to home. A no-deal Brexit will hit those on low incomes such as those on Universal credit the hardest.

LaurieMarlow · 08/12/2018 10:21

may not be the majority of the electorate but there is still some anti-Irish sentiment.

And 'anti irish' sentiment translates into 'threatening them with starvation to get our way' now does it?

For fucks sake, you must be so proud of your countrymen Hmm

In fairness it is total bollocks anyway as Ireland is far more food sufficient than the UK and could easily feed itself by cutting back on exports.

Moussemoose · 08/12/2018 10:27

The whole Brexit fiasco has unpeeled the lid from the worst aspects of U.K. society.

We are looking into a pit of horror and people still want these nightmares to control the country?

No Brexit supporters coming on the thread to apologise or explain that's not their view? Thought not.

ForalltheSaints · 08/12/2018 10:27

LaurieMarlow like you I am not proud of many of my fellow people in this country. At least the 17.4 million who fell for the lies of Boris Johnson and others. I do my best when abroad to never speak English and having French ancestry traced back several generations and a relative living in Paris, have come very close to claiming to be French on a few occasions.

jasjas1973 · 08/12/2018 10:35

Its not just brexitier views, many share these sort of vile opinions.

I lived in London & Reading in the early 90's before moving to S.Africa, there i met people who openly held some v extreme ideas, the only difference was that in the UK, these opinions were only aired privately and unchallenged.

If anyone thinks a report on the Stephen Lawrence killing suddenly changes how society thinks and behaves are very much mistaken.

Look at how May treated the Windrush generation? or her attitude after Grenfell? the failure to house, change regs or fund to avoid a repeat.

LaurieMarlow · 08/12/2018 10:40

The whole Brexit fiasco has unpeeled the lid from the worst aspects of U.K. society

Agreed

Livingtothefull · 08/12/2018 21:54

I am feeling more & more ashamed of being British now, I feel so sad about the things that are happening. I think that what Priti Patel has said is just plain evil....advocating that we should threaten hunger to a country which is a close neighbour is evil - before you even take into account the historical context which makes it so much more offensive.

If the Tory party, Brexiters and her constituents (the ones who voted for her) had anything about them they would disown and dump her after what she has said. None of that will happen of course.

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