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To think I have effectively been dismissed?

541 replies

Autumnwindinthewillows · 04/12/2018 17:05

I worked at an office less than 5 mins walk from a major transport hub. The firm then moved to an office with no easily accessible public transport but the arrangement at the time (or so i thought) was that staff with cars would pick me up from the old office. With staff changes this is no longer happening and I cannot get to work without an hour long journey on public transport plus a 1.5 mile walk which is not feasible.

The bosses have basically reneged on the deal and said it is my problem so it would seem i am out of a job. Can I claim constructive dismissal?

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user139328237 · 05/12/2018 14:58

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BishopBrennansArse · 05/12/2018 15:00

Salem's been banned, allegedly

BishopBrennansArse · 05/12/2018 15:01

I'm not going to tell user what I think of their comment about autistic people as it'll get deleted. It's got four letters, though.

The post has also been reported.

BishopBrennansArse · 05/12/2018 15:03

Nope, Salem's not banned. They're going to have a word.

SalemBlackCat4 · 05/12/2018 15:06

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InfiniteVariety · 05/12/2018 15:12

Realistically I don't think your employer was ever in a position to make long term promises to you which involved personal favours done by other staff. They probably assumed you would realise this and look for another job.

BishopBrennansArse · 05/12/2018 15:15

Yeah so perhaps shouldn't have made those promises or arrangements, Infinite? Maybe looked into options at the time such as access to work right back then? But that was then, really. Unless Access to Work can part fund some transport now (which will take time to set up) the OP needs to decide on either finding another transport option or another job.

mumsastudent · 05/12/2018 15:17

user you are aware that in the UK bus passes are only valid after 930? as for some peoples arrogant remarks about people with ASD expecting the world to revolve around them? You know nothing about the real life fights people have to get support or get into work or to try & manage the bloody system. ASD is an incredibly varied condition & how people are affected are as individual as the people who have it. & even getting diagnosis is an uphill struggle that can years & even with the diagnosis it doesn't mean you get any help special education wise. I could go on but I suspect these remarks are from trolls surely no one could be that ignorant -I hope!

InfiniteVariety · 05/12/2018 15:18

Maybe they were trying to be kind so that she could continue for a short time while searching for an alternative BishopBrennansArse but you're right, they should have been clearer re the long-term

PengAly · 05/12/2018 15:24

This thread has seriously gone off topic. Of course not every disabled person expects the world to revolve around them, unfortunatly SOME do (this can hapoen across all disabilities)

OP, YABVVVU to have such an entitled attitude. It is NOT you collegues responsibility to get you to work and back, you were naive to take your boss's casual comment as a promise and you are being very immature to not have a formal discussion with them about you situation. Talk to you boss politely and explain that doing the commute will make you unfit for work and see about if they will allow home working. You also are being a CF to not want to pay for your travel costs when everyone else has to. Do not even try to accuse the company of "dismissal" when you arent even having the appropriate conversations and turning up late without a prior discussion is stupid. If all else fails then pay out for taxis and look for a different job

SalemBlackCat4 · 05/12/2018 15:38

@FortniteIsTheNewCrack

I said Medicare Number as well as NHS Number as well as Social Security Number. Because this is a global website, and there was no indication the OP was in the UK hence I was covering bases. I am not in America (I believe Social Security, not Medicare is the applicable term) I am in Australia hence my mentioning Medicare. And I have not made any 'disablist' comments at all, so stop misrepresenting me.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/12/2018 15:42

And I have not made any 'disablist' comments at all, so stop misrepresenting me.

Well you have been deleted for something.

TrippingTheVelvet · 05/12/2018 15:44

I've skipped over this thread but AtW will only be accessible if it is specifically the disability that is preventing her from being to drive. If she had epilepsy for example then AtW should absolutely stand this cost.

Absolutely inappropriate and not reasonable at all for colleagues to be lifting and leaving in their own cars unless a) driving duties are listed as part of the job description and they have business insurance b) they are being financially reimbursed and c) it is during their working hours. It sounds like piss poor management there.

SalemBlackCat4 · 05/12/2018 15:46

Getting a bit too aggressive after being abused by posters on here, is probably why, but I have not written anything attacking disabled people. Indeed I posted as someone who was a carer for my father who was completely blind, so I certainly didn't post anything against people with disabilities.

starfishmummy · 05/12/2018 15:48

To people who say the employer should have offered redundancy....no he can't do that. Redundancy can only be offered if the job no longer exists and clearly it does.

Autumnwindinthewillows · 05/12/2018 15:56

Reading some of the comments on here makes me want to cry. I would like nothing better than to be able to drive but my licence was revoked 2 years ago specifically because of my disability. Sometimes I just feel like driving anyway and to hell with it.
As for knowing all my entitlements I wish I did - my care coordinator has not even heard of the concessionery bus pass and has not given me any info on reasonable adjustments or access to work. I wasn't aware previously that there was anything available if I am working.
However now I do know and am awaiting a call back from the DEA at the job centre who also cover access to work but their advice is I have to seek reasonable adjustments first. Confusing.
I spoke to my union and they knew little about it either so not sure how I am supposed to know this stuff - by osmosis maybe Hmm

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JustHereForThePooStories · 05/12/2018 16:04

@Autumnwindinthewillows Did you go to work today?

Schuyler · 05/12/2018 16:04

Reasonable adjustments does not include getting employees to give you a lift. That’s not fair on you or them nor is it sustainable. If you struggle with the journey, it’d be things like; a computer to work from home or flexi working.

PengAly · 05/12/2018 16:05

@autumn i understand its upsetting to see a debate about disabled people and o know your situation must suck. But can you answer the questions of why you can't afford a taxi when others probbly pay more for running a car? And do you at least understand that you have come across entitled and that the current situation is not your colleges fault? Have you even considered have a formal conversation with your manager??

Aridane · 05/12/2018 16:12

Let’s hope that salem is NEVER EVER an employer

Aridane · 05/12/2018 16:15

Ah, autumn - don’t you know that all this stuff is magically hard wired into your (disabled) DNA? And that on diagnosis, you are given a full and extensive briefing?

Aridane · 05/12/2018 16:16

@BishopBrennansArse if you honestly think people with disabilities don't know about their rights (which is something you learn about when diagnosed) the you are delusional and clearly have no experience whatsoever with disabilities. You can't be serious? hmm

Oh, salem - if only things were like you seem to think they are

BishopBrennansArse · 05/12/2018 16:23

Thank you Ariadne.

I am disabled. I know this stuff.

I'm also an employer. So....

Autumnwindinthewillows · 05/12/2018 16:29

No I didn't go into work today. I spent time researching bus times and talking to people like the union. I did however email to tell them i wouldn't be in and that I would be in tomorrow but my timing would erratic over the next days as i tried out different options. No response so I guess they have accepted it.
Tomorrow I will be updating my cv and searching for new jobs.
As for why I cannot afford the taxi fares whilst others run a car I only know my circumstances which is that once I have paid the rent, housing costs and fed me and my son there is nothing left over. I took the job because I knew there would be no transport costs so it made it feasible. Presumably other people do similar calculations when they take a job they chose to drive to and know they have to pay for parking?

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Autumnwindinthewillows · 05/12/2018 16:32

And I have tried cycling - i bought a bike but as I havent ridden a bike for 30 years I was very unsteady and nervous in the traffic. When I fell off into the path of a car I decided it was safer not to continue

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