Why are Brits not like the French

[Worker29]

BBC News - France fuel protests: Tear gas fired in clashes in Paris
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46411699
There are riots. About fuel taxes.
Brexit has caused no such demonstrations.
Why?

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/brexit-and-the-squeezed-middle/

I agree that brexit was a protest vote, but not by the working classes. As a northerner working for minimum wage who voted to remain, these false assumptions about who voted for brexit irritate me. Most of my friends and colleagues didn’t vote in the referendum at all. Apathy in the uk is terrible.

Yes the people who voted for brexit thought that plunging the poor into greater poverty was worth the risk, because they weren’t the ones who would suffer most.

if the government needs more money to pay for something then they need to collect more money one way or the other

It's where you take the taxes from though. Macron has reduced the tax burden on the very rich and is now raising a tax that will mainly impact on the rural poor.

I completely agree with you Safe. It's also my experience that the poorest voted remain because they do not want to be poorer. Where I work all the managers voted leave and most of the workers voted remain. There are plenty of middle income earners who feel hard done by because they're not leading the luxury lifestyle they feel entitled to.

Most inner cities voted remain.

That's the beauty of being able to vote people in and out though isn't it gamer!
Sure is.

NHS workforce at last count was 44% women and 56% men BUT for the lower bands 1-6 there are more women than men.

when we do have protests, the news never reports it.

This is very true - as Fatosfook says, the news is under the control of the government.

The miners' strikes under Thatcher were horrendous - started off peaceful, then massive police violence, massive retaliatory violence from the miners, families set against each other - desperate men who had no wages coming in, whose families were denied benefits - really dreadful suffering - friends down south had no idea it was happening - NOTHING in their news broadcast at all.

friends down south had no idea it was happening - NOTHING in their news broadcast at all.

What were they? Hermits?

friends down south had no idea it was happening - NOTHING in their news broadcast at all.

They mustn't have had TV then, because it was on the news every night in London.
Dreadful situation. Tensions were running high. I remember going to dinner with ex-uni friends. There was a massive clash between one friend (Socialist Worker supporter) and another whose family were from the mining community. I can't recall the detail but there was nearly a punch up at the table. The miners' strike really polarised opinion - a bit like today but not to the same extent nationally.

For Safeandwarm and Namechanger2

Who voted for Brexit? A comprehensive district-level analysis
Sascha O Becker Thiemo Fetzer Dennis Novy
Economic Policy, Volume 32, Issue 92, 1 October 2017, Pages 601–650, doi.org/10.1093/epolic/eix012
Published: 12 October 2017

SUMMARY
On 23 June 2016, the British electorate voted to leave the European Union (EU). We analyse vote and turnout shares across 380 local authority areas in the United Kingdom. We find that exposure to the EU in terms of immigration and trade provides relatively little explanatory power for the referendum vote. Instead, we find that fundamental characteristics of the voting population were key drivers of the Vote Leave share, in particular their education profiles, their historical dependence on manufacturing employment as well as low income and high unemployment. At the much finer level of wards within cities, we find that areas with deprivation in terms of education, income and employment were more likely to vote Leave. Our results indicate that a higher turnout of younger voters, who were more likely to vote Remain, would not have overturned the referendum result. We also compare our UK results to voting patterns for the far-right leader Marine Le Pen in the 2017 French presidential election. We find similar factors driving the French vote. An out-of-sample prediction of the French vote using UK estimates performs reasonably well.

Arent the hike in fuel prices to do with climate change? I am concerned about climate change but humanity is so attached to fossil fuels that we panic at the thought of cutting down on them...or using alternatives.

Statutory Declaration: I am strongly a Remainer

But...I really wish people would stop being silly about the inevitable collapse of civilisation in the aftermath.

SchadenfreudePersonified

The miners strike was well reported in the news in the south, there were reports every evening. Arthur Scargill was always popping up on the news

AndromedaPerseus

At the much finer level of wards within cities, we find that areas with deprivation in terms of education, income and employment were more likely to vote Leave.

You missed the first bit.

You mean this bit which explains the finer levels
We find that exposure to the EU in terms of immigration and trade provides relatively little explanatory power for the referendum vote. Instead, we find that fundamental characteristics of the voting population were key drivers of the Vote Leave share, in particular their education profiles, their historical dependence on manufacturing employment as well as low income and high unemployment

e in fuel prices to do with climate change?

Yes - they are. Macron is actually trying to do something about his country's contribution to the greenhouse gases.

Unfortunately America insists that there is nothing wrong, still puts profit over everything else, and is also contributes something like 30% of the entire world's greenhouse gas emissions.

America is a huge, insular country that refuses to face up to its responsibilities in regard to global warming. Unfortunately for many Americans, they are starting to feel the effects, but are too in love with oil to accept the truth, it seems.

We are all (in the west) too dependent upon fossil fuels - they have been easy, plentiful and cheap - but now we find they are not so cheap after all. The really horrifying thing is that the giant fuel companies have KNOW for about 40 years what they were doing. And they didn't care, because all they were interested in was ridiculously high profits.

@MickHucknallspinkpancakes
@LaDaronne
The truth of the matter is rather different to what you allege, "Mick":
for a start it wasn't the Gendarmerie, but the municipal police and the "puppy" was a Rottweiler / German Shepherd cross which got under a fence into someone else's garden. It attacked the police officer and after the first shot in self defence it came back at him and got him on the ground - so he shot it again and killed it
www.lalsace.fr/actualite/2018/05/26/chien-abattu-le-policier-municipal-en-legitime-defense

I think they are just a lot lairy-er than we are as a nation

Um have you been to any British pub district on a Friday / Saturday night recently?