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Planning Permission

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Hofuckingho · 01/12/2018 19:36

On our estate you need planning permission for change of use and conservatories. We extended our kitchen into the garage and needed planning permission, which we go.

Two of our neighbours have built conservatories without permission. One of them is having a massive thing built stretching the whole width of the house. You can look online and they haven't got the necessary permission. I know generally you can have a conservatory built but there's a clause for these on our houses.

WWYD?

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Hofuckingho · 01/12/2018 19:36

*got

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Prisonbreak · 01/12/2018 19:38

Does it affect your property? Is your view compromised? Sun light impacted?

EdWinchester · 01/12/2018 19:38

If it bothers you, you could report it to planning enforcement at the council.

MrsReacher1 · 01/12/2018 19:39

Planning permission rules have changed. Look up "Permitted development"

If it is something specific to your estate then it is not likely to be planning permission but something in the deeds of the house - a covenant perhaps

mineofuselessinformation · 01/12/2018 19:39

On my estate, that condition expires after a period of time. I could but won't build one on my house now.

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Hofuckingho · 01/12/2018 19:42

One of these conservatories is built touching our fence.

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Angrybird345 · 01/12/2018 19:42

Report it to the Council?

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Hofuckingho · 01/12/2018 19:54

Planning permission rules have changed. Look up "Permitted development"

If it is something specific to your estate then it is not likely to be planning permission but something in the deeds of the house - a covenant perhaps

Yes, things have changed but the council has a rule about this estate. We know this because we were told when we rang up to ask about permission about our kitchen extension. We only moved part of the kitchen into the garage, yet we needed planning permission.

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EdWinchester · 01/12/2018 19:55

Many housing estates have no PD.

Plannergirl9 · 01/12/2018 19:57

For some developments permitted development rights have been removed as part of the underlining planning application for the housing.

You could report your neighbours to the planning department bare in mind given the lack of resources most planning departments have, it won't be a priority for any enforcement action to take place. Any action would have to begin with your neighbours given the opportunity to apply for planning permission which they will probably get.

Is it really worth risking the relationship with your neighbour over something so small?

LIZS · 01/12/2018 19:59

Are they new builds or a recent development? Many have pd rights rescinded and need pp for even a shed. Report to council and it will be up to them to enforce, assuming they have the resources. Although this could merely mean a retrospective application.

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Hofuckingho · 01/12/2018 20:00

Is it really worth risking the relationship with your neighbour over something so small?

Yes that's the thing! On the other hand it just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm asking the collective wisdom of you lot.

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MrsMiggel · 01/12/2018 20:01

Report them. If they need PP and don’t have it they will have to apply retrospectively. And if they get turned down they’ll have to knock it down.

Plannergirl9 · 01/12/2018 20:01

Your neighbours will probably have invalidated their home insurance because they built something that doesn't have permission, breached their mortgage conditions because they built something without telling the mortgage company and done it without permission (no mortgage company would let them do it illegally) and when it comes to sale it it will be difficult for them to get through asking price given the fact they don't have permission for what they've done irrespective of having a building warrant. (This may only apply in Scotland though).@

Even though it was a bit of a hassle and cost you money to get your permission you're in a much better position than they are.

agedknees · 01/12/2018 20:03

Honestly if it doesn’t encroach on your enjoyment of your property I would leave well alone.

Plannergirl9 · 01/12/2018 20:05

@MrsMiggel in order for council's to make people knocked down illegal developments, the council would have to go to court which costs money (which councils don't have) and it take years. What is more likely is that they will just be given permission even if the Op objects.

MrsMiggel · 01/12/2018 21:09

Actually it’s likely the council will deny permission (if they have grounds for doing so) and will tell the person to knock it down. If the person refuses to comply that’s when the council would have to pursue them legally (and would probably lack funds to do so). But the house owners would find it very difficult to sell their house with an illegal conservatory that’s been denied permission, and would probably end up knocking it down eventually so they can sell and move.

LIZS · 01/12/2018 21:14

If others have had developments passed it is unlikely these would be refused. Presumably they have no buildings regs either.

mushlett · 01/12/2018 21:17

Why on earth would you report it?

MrsMiggel · 01/12/2018 21:39

Because OP might not want the conservatory to be there if it’s obstructing her view or light etc, and she should have the opportunity to respond to a planning application and raise her objections. As should everyone else.

Wauden · 01/12/2018 21:48

You should report it anyway to planning enforcement .
If it is built up to your fence or wall the neighbour might have needed a party wall agreement as well.

Davros · 01/12/2018 22:06

Report online. It's then up to the council what happens. No one needs to know who reported

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